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Posted by Concourse Express on Sun Apr 1 23:01:22 2012, in response to Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Gold_12TH on Sun Apr 1 22:50:23 2012. About on-par with Norwood - 205 Street and the "Chamber of Horrors" as far as water damage goes...And a "fresh coat of paint" won't mean jack if the water issue isn't addressed; similar issues have marred recently rehabbed stations like 59-CC (uptown plat against the wall, north end) and Tremont Ave IND (and yes, I'm aware Tremont's fix was over a decade ago). my blog |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sun Apr 1 23:39:55 2012, in response to Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Gold_12TH on Sun Apr 1 22:50:23 2012. Ugh, rap. |
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Posted by The Silence on Mon Apr 2 02:30:29 2012, in response to Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Gold_12TH on Sun Apr 1 22:50:23 2012. So, the riders of the A and C don't matter, even though they share the platforms? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Apr 2 04:34:14 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by The Silence on Mon Apr 2 02:30:29 2012. Anything to create a story and ratings. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Mon Apr 2 13:57:20 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Concourse Express on Sun Apr 1 23:01:22 2012. POOL PAINT! Worked just fine at Utica Avenue (IND).wayne |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Apr 3 11:23:21 2012, in response to Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Gold_12TH on Sun Apr 1 22:50:23 2012. Hmmmmm, I guess Hoyt-Schermerhorn can join the growing list of crappy, peeling painted, mystery liquid-seeping stations on the system, like Broadway (G), Chambers Street (J), 205th Street (D), and 21st-Van Alst (G). |
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Posted by caine515 on Tue Apr 3 11:56:12 2012, in response to Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Gold_12TH on Sun Apr 1 22:50:23 2012. peeling paint is a issue on all the G stops(except Metropolitan Av) and most of the N stops too. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 3 12:08:20 2012, in response to Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Gold_12TH on Sun Apr 1 22:50:23 2012. So it's fine for the A/C riders who use the station?I'm really getting sick and tired of G line riders whining all the time. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 3 12:08:20 2012, in response to Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Gold_12TH on Sun Apr 1 22:50:23 2012. So it's fine for the A/C riders who use the station?I'm really getting sick and tired of G line riders whining all the time. |
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Posted by joe c on Tue Apr 3 19:28:00 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Apr 3 11:23:21 2012. Broadway needs an overhaul,that whole line needs work.til next time |
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Posted by joe c on Tue Apr 3 19:29:21 2012, in response to Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Gold_12TH on Sun Apr 1 22:50:23 2012. 2015,shows how much the MTA cares about the G line.til next time |
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Posted by The Silence on Tue Apr 3 20:59:51 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by joe c on Tue Apr 3 19:28:00 2012. but of coruse if the MTA closes the line for work, the locals bitch anyway.... |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue Apr 3 21:49:20 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by caine515 on Tue Apr 3 11:56:12 2012. N/B Metropolitan had a BIG leak in one of the vent chambers a few years back; last time I was there (March 2011) it appeared to have been remedied; but the tiles are still somewhat stained as a result of this.wayne |
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Posted by blue8irt on Wed Apr 4 12:28:11 2012, in response to Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Gold_12TH on Sun Apr 1 22:50:23 2012. The G (GG in my day) was our "home" line in 1967 when we lived on the campus of Pratt Institute. The service then was cool and I recall it as a clean line but there was much of political unrest then. We also used the Myrtle Av. El. It was slow, rickety and ugly, but a beautiful ride in a time machine. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Apr 4 14:47:24 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Apr 3 11:23:21 2012. 21st-Van Alst is a disgrace. The Magnificent Dungeon a/k/a Chambers of Horror has improved over the past 10 years - it used to have peeling paint and wires dangling from the ceiling in spots where old incandescent bulb fixtures used to be affixed. Those have been taken care of but the open abandoned side platform has gooey things on the floor that defy description. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Apr 4 17:58:48 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Apr 4 14:47:24 2012. Those gooey things are stalagmites forming from the drips from overhead. As for 21st-Van Alst - they need to dig BEHIND the wall on the southbound side (outside the station box itself) and fill and seal in order to keep the spring water out. Not a job for the squeamish. And very expensive for a marginal-use station.wayne |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Apr 4 20:25:53 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Apr 4 14:47:24 2012. Chambers Street has improved?????? Wow, I need to get down there sometime and see this for myself!!!I very much recall, in great detail, many instances (when the brothel used to be upstairs) at 21st-Van Alst, when some of the locals after hours used to get their "relations" on right down on the platform!!! Adds to the "grandeur" of the station!!! :-D To think some said working the G was boring!!! :-D |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Apr 4 20:29:54 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Apr 4 20:25:53 2012. Hey, guys, speaking of water damage- has the new South Ferry station been repaired. Haven't heard anything about it recently. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Apr 4 21:33:04 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Elkeeper on Wed Apr 4 20:29:54 2012. Did Mocker report it on the WPIX News @ 10? |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Apr 5 16:01:50 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Apr 4 21:33:04 2012. i just thought that someone might have been through the station and noticed any repairs, or not. Sad to let a new station like that start to rot away, like an old one at Chambers St! |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 5 21:22:50 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Apr 4 17:58:48 2012. Maybe they shouldn't call for the greatest plumbers that ever plumbed a plumb... |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 5 21:24:03 2012, in response to Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Gold_12TH on Sun Apr 1 22:50:23 2012. Oy Gevalt! |
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Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Thu Apr 5 22:57:44 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Apr 4 17:58:48 2012. Yup they said the same thing about Metropolitan-Grand when there was rusty waterfalls down the tiles. Look at it now. Someday, when there are Bloomberg Buddy, tax exempt high rises above, it will be a nice station, say maybe in three years. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 6 02:55:57 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 3 12:08:20 2012. Yeah, just about every line has a few stations with pealing paint. I love how they make it sound like it's all their problem and A/C riders who also use the station don't have the same problem!While they have a point about Smith-9th being an absurd terminal, this is just whining. May I add though, that if this was an apartment, the government would be all over the landlord about the hazards of lead paint, pealing paint, and so forth. But of course if it's a government agency, "Oh we will deal with it by 2015". Typical government. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 6 03:00:51 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Apr 5 16:01:50 2012. Not only is South Ferry's problems ridiculous for a new station, but it's station design is one of the ugliest utilitarian stations in the system. Hopefully that's not what we are in for for the 2nd Ave subway. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 6 03:24:23 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 6 02:55:57 2012. Blaming government when it's obvious to even the most partisan of the left that what we have here is hipsters bitching about the paint and nobody else cares as much about it? LOLSo government responds to complainers ... if you don't when you work for an agency, beware of their "representatives" ... in most government work, nothing happens until some "leader" whines at upper management and DEMANDS satisfaction or the budget gets cut. That's why things like this happen. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri Apr 6 10:40:22 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by jan k. lorenzen on Thu Apr 5 22:57:44 2012. Metropolitan-Grand was a different problem - a vent chamber was leaking rain water/storm water. That's been fixed (from above). 21-Van Alst is literally an underground spring coming in from behind the trackside wall (right through the station box). Much harder situation to remedy. All the grout in the world won't fix it either; you have to get behind the wall and divert the spring somehow.-w- |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Apr 6 17:39:14 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 6 03:00:51 2012. Okay, one mo' time- are they repairing the new South Ferry station? |
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Posted by Concourse Express on Fri Apr 6 17:40:30 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Mon Apr 2 13:57:20 2012. Alrighty then!my blog |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Apr 6 19:41:37 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 6 03:00:51 2012. funny..thats exactly what we are getting.. |
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Posted by caine515 on Fri Apr 6 19:55:20 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Apr 6 17:39:14 2012. I do know they did repaint the ceiling at the Chambers Street stop on the "J" and "Z" line back in either 2008 or 2009 but if you go there now, it looks like it needs a repaint again sadly. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Apr 6 23:17:59 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri Apr 6 10:40:22 2012. Go get another piece of pipe! |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Fri Apr 6 23:29:42 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by caine515 on Fri Apr 6 19:55:20 2012. Doesn't Chambers street have a water problem? I think they should fix that first. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri Apr 6 23:49:44 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Apr 6 23:17:59 2012. Go get a CULVERT! |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri Apr 6 23:52:24 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Fri Apr 6 23:29:42 2012. A couple of separate water problems:1) what's left of Collect Pond is seeping into the north end of the station 2) Waste lines coming from under the Municipal Building are corroding and leaking. This wastewater is permeating the middle of the station. 3) At the south end of the n/b abandoned platform there is a storm drain which, whenever it rains, pours water into the station. wayne |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 7 10:03:21 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Fri Apr 6 23:29:42 2012. Chambers St. has problems, period. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 7 10:04:50 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri Apr 6 23:49:44 2012. Can you imagine Moe telling Curly to go get a culvert? The expression on his face would be priceless. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 7 19:40:16 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 6 03:24:23 2012. Blaming government when it's obvious to even the most partisan of the left that what we have here is hipsters bitching about the paint and nobody else cares as much about it? LOLHave you ever seen the federal regulation on lead paint? Not to mention New York City's stringent lead paint laws. The photos speak for themselves. Again, if this was an apartment the city would be all over the landlord because of the pealing paint. But of course, it's "the government" here, and they say "We will deal with it by 2015". Again, typical government. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 7 19:41:56 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 7 10:03:21 2012. .....a basket case is more like it... :) |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sun Apr 8 01:18:57 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 7 10:03:21 2012. When they closed off the Brooklyn bound platforms at Canal and Bowery they should've reconfigured the tracks at Chambers St. If they do that they should wall off the side platform and the Brooklyn bound platform and use the center platform and the Broad St bound platform. I think a full restoration of Chambers is unnecessary as its days as a big terminal are long gone. I think just restoring the western half of the station is enough. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun Apr 8 13:15:05 2012, in response to Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Gold_12TH on Sun Apr 1 22:50:23 2012. Maybe the third time will be a charm! Are they repairing the water leaks in the new South Ferry station??? Not Chambers, not Hoyt, but South Ferry!!! |
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Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Mon May 7 18:55:49 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sun Apr 8 01:18:57 2012. At the risk of being viciously flamed and ridiculed as I was way back when on Dave's site for taking the position that direct midtown service via Chrystie was not only highly desirable, but would be a huge success...and that it would be an atrocity if the connection was left dormant or even abandoned...Chambers' "dormant" side must not be left to rot, nor should it be abandoned outright. Having seen what absolute stupidity it is to abandon usable ROW only to discover a decade or 2 later that it was a horrendous and costly mistake that cannot be undone, NYCT should at an absolute minimum rehabilitate and maintain the east platform and trackways. Sooner or later ridership patterns will make it sensible to have a terminal there. Take out the rails, deactivate the signals, and dim the lights to avoid those maintenance costs, but make certain the ROW remains intact and "just add rails" ready so it can be converted to turn trains coming from both the north and south in just however long it takes to reinstall the running infrastructure. If it's left to go to seed or abandoned, mark my word: Within 20 years there will be a lot of hand wringing and finger-pointing when there's no way to handle additional service because it will cost way too much to rehab/rebuild the abandoned portion for revenue service. The folks in Planning surely can't be oblivious to the fact that when WTC reopens, Lower Manhattan is going to experience a renaissance. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon May 7 19:13:19 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Mon May 7 18:55:49 2012. Huh? Of course it's maintained. It leads to and from the Transit Museum, and the platforms are used for movie shoots. You can't turn any trains there without bringing a train all the way into Court Street though, unless the signals allow you to wrong-rail up Track B4 to the Lafayette Avenue spur track. Still couldn't stop there, though. |
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Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Mon May 7 19:25:15 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by G1Ravage on Mon May 7 19:13:19 2012. Um, try reading the message I was replying to. |
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Posted by monorail on Mon May 7 19:41:38 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Mon May 7 18:55:49 2012. 'Federal' money will repair any neglected areas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue May 8 02:12:32 2012, in response to Re: Peeling ceiling is latest problem for (G) train riders @ Hoyt–Schermerhorn station, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Mon May 7 19:25:15 2012. WHOOPS. |
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