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Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT)

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 24 14:49:43 2012

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WJAR, NBC Channel 10, Providence RI

Amtrak drops several local stops

By: WJAR Staff | NBC 10
Published: March 21, 2012
Westerly-area residents who take Amtrak need to know that two Amtrak stops in Westerly and two in Mystic have been removed from the schedule.

The Westerly Sun reported that the 9:40 a.m. and the 1:54 p.m. Westerly stops on trains from New York Penn Station have been dropped. And the 9:32 a.m. and 1:43 p.m. Mystic stops have also been eliminated.

One stop has been added in the 11 a.m. hour at those two stations.

An Amtrak spokesman said the revisions will allow for two major track and rail bridge improvement projects in the Northeast Corridor area.


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Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly (RI), Mystic (CT)

Posted by Mr. MTA on Sat Mar 24 20:48:01 2012, in response to Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT), posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 24 14:49:43 2012.

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(Title Corrected.) I wonder why they chose to cut back service at these stops which already receive less service than other stops on this line. This is an unfortunate change. :(

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Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly (RI), Mystic (CT)

Posted by Mr. MTA on Sat Mar 24 20:49:47 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly (RI), Mystic (CT), posted by Mr. MTA on Sat Mar 24 20:48:01 2012.

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It seems like this is a very small window for repair work to be completed.

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Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT)

Posted by Wado MP73 on Sat Mar 24 23:07:09 2012, in response to Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT), posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 24 14:49:43 2012.

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Are these the stops that didn't even have low platforms and used stools to let people on and off the train? When I rode to Boston in 1988 there were still a couple of stops like that between New Haven and Providence.

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Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT)

Posted by Mr. MTA on Sat Mar 24 23:23:08 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT), posted by Wado MP73 on Sat Mar 24 23:07:09 2012.

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Both Mystic and Westerly have low level platforms.

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Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT)

Posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Mar 25 01:33:28 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT), posted by Mr. MTA on Sat Mar 24 23:23:08 2012.

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Just to be clear, in 1988? You said "have" not "had".

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Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT)

Posted by Mr. MTA on Sun Mar 25 01:44:37 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT), posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Mar 25 01:33:28 2012.

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There have never been full length high level platforms at either of these stations. If there were in 1988, they would still be in place today. However, there is a one car length high level platform at the end of the stations on both sides for the Business Class car only. Besides that, the majority of the length of the platforms are at track level.

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Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT)

Posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Mar 25 10:58:29 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT), posted by Mr. MTA on Sun Mar 25 01:44:37 2012.

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Could you please re-read my original post?

No low level platform, no high level platform, no platform at all, was what I meant.

The conductor would get off the train with a stool in his hand and position it under the lowest step of an Amfleet door for people getting on and off.

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Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT)

Posted by checkthedoorlight on Sun Mar 25 14:42:01 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT), posted by Mr. MTA on Sun Mar 25 01:44:37 2012.

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You're thinking of New London. Note that New London's current high level platform is incompatible with the M8's, as there is an extremely large gap. Even the Amtrak/SLE trains which use that platform (which have end doors where the gap isn't QUITE as bad) need to put down a bridge to fill the gap.

Mystic & Westerly both have low level platforms which are on sharp curves (what is it with building stations on sharp curves in this area?), making it very difficult to add a high level platform at either station. I don't know about Mystic, but Westerly does have a portable lift available for disabled passengers.

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Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT)

Posted by checkthedoorlight on Sun Mar 25 14:44:49 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT), posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Mar 25 10:58:29 2012.

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Those are some of the now SLE stations, all of which now have platforms (all except Westbrook are high level). Before SLE started up, those stations saw very little service from Amtrak/NH.

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Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT)

Posted by checkthedoorlight on Sun Mar 25 14:45:43 2012, in response to Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT), posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 24 14:49:43 2012.

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Damn, that's A190. I occasionally ride that from NYP-WLY.

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Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT)

Posted by Fred G on Sun Mar 25 15:55:39 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT), posted by checkthedoorlight on Sun Mar 25 14:44:49 2012.

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Little service indeed, as there weren't any stations between New Haven and OSB before SLE arrived.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT)

Posted by Fred G on Sun Mar 25 16:02:06 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT), posted by Wado MP73 on Sat Mar 24 23:07:09 2012.

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No, they both had short low level platforms IINM. They were expanded during the electrification in 2000.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT)

Posted by Fred G on Sun Mar 25 16:05:42 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT), posted by Fred G on Sun Mar 25 16:02:06 2012.

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Now that I think about it more, the boarding area was asphalt and they did use a step stool in Mystic but not sure about Westerly.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT)

Posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Mar 25 18:17:27 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT), posted by Fred G on Sun Mar 25 16:05:42 2012.

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Thanks, Fred. I was expecting you'd eventually chime in.

I don't remember if it was asphalt or just dirt but I remember the step stool for sure. That was my first time on Amtrak. I wished I'd taken pictures of that stop and the engine change at New Haven. Both of them are now history.

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Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT)

Posted by ebtmikado on Sun Mar 25 19:55:09 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT), posted by Fred G on Sun Mar 25 15:55:39 2012.

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For about a decade, after Reaganomics killed the Beacon Hill.

Lee

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Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT)

Posted by ebtmikado on Sun Mar 25 20:01:06 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT), posted by Wado MP73 on Sat Mar 24 23:07:09 2012.

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Been riding the Shore Line between New York and Providence since 1960. Don't remember any station without a paved platform. Even Kenyons, Shannock and East Greenwich had them.

Lee


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Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT)

Posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Mar 25 22:28:38 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT), posted by ebtmikado on Sun Mar 25 20:01:06 2012.

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There could have been a piece of asphalt like Fred said, but it wasn't raised or something I would call a platform. Otherwise it wouldn't have stuck in my mind. I grew up in Western Europe and Japan where you didn't see that kind of setup anymore, at least not on a major trunk line.

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Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT)

Posted by checkthedoorlight on Mon Mar 26 03:28:26 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT), posted by Fred G on Sun Mar 25 15:55:39 2012.

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FALSE.

Amtrak's Clam Digger stopped at all the current SLE stations, as well as a station in Niantic. This is likely the "stool stations" being refered to above.

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Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT)

Posted by merrick1 on Mon Mar 26 19:52:47 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT), posted by checkthedoorlight on Mon Mar 26 03:28:26 2012.

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Isn't the item in question actually called a "step box?"

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Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT)

Posted by Wado MP73 on Mon May 7 17:45:49 2012, in response to Re: Amtrak reschedules station stops in Westerly, Mystic (CT), posted by Fred G on Sun Mar 25 16:05:42 2012.

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After finding this picture at trainweb.org, I started to think it may have been Old Saybrook. I remember trees next to the tracks.




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