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New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by The Silence on Tue Mar 13 16:32:36 2012

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Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by randyo on Tue Mar 13 16:41:38 2012, in response to New Disney California Adventure Red Car line, posted by The Silence on Tue Mar 13 16:32:36 2012.

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If I remember the North Hollywood car at Orange Empire, the operator's controls were on the left side of the car not in the middle as on the repro.

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Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 13 16:53:30 2012, in response to New Disney California Adventure Red Car line, posted by The Silence on Tue Mar 13 16:32:36 2012.

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i did not see any wire overhead
when does it open ?
the operators controls at the orange empire railway museum is in the center
PE 717 below


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Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by Rockparkman on Tue Mar 13 17:00:28 2012, in response to Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 13 16:53:30 2012.

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Is that a WH controller ?

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Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 13 17:06:34 2012, in response to Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line, posted by Rockparkman on Tue Mar 13 17:00:28 2012.

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it is the controls of pe 717
thats all the information i have sorry

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Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 13 17:17:31 2012, in response to Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line, posted by Rockparkman on Tue Mar 13 17:00:28 2012.

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Sure is ... look at the top front and you'll see the "W E S T I N ..." where it usually goes between the lid screws, and the lift down and out cover is also a clue.

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Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Mar 13 17:19:46 2012, in response to New Disney California Adventure Red Car line, posted by The Silence on Tue Mar 13 16:32:36 2012.

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I don't see any trolley wire.

Does the car run on batteries or gas engine ?

Bill

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Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 13 18:33:59 2012, in response to New Disney California Adventure Red Car line, posted by The Silence on Tue Mar 13 16:32:36 2012.

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Pretty neat, thanks!

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Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 13 22:16:36 2012, in response to Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line, posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Mar 13 17:19:46 2012.

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"The centerpiece of the new entry will be the Red Car Trolley, which, though battery-powered, will travel along tracks and will be connected to decorative overhead wires via “power poles.” The style of the trolley will harken back to the Pacific Electric Railway that used to run throughout Southern California in the 1920s."

http://www.diszine.com/content/disney-california-adventure-red-car-trolley-concept-art

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Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Mar 13 22:34:16 2012, in response to Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line, posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Mar 13 17:19:46 2012.

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Actually, I've heard that, for color and great photographs (except now they're "Fuji Moments", the 7 Dwarfs push it from the rear. However, since this job places tremendous stress on them, Disney needed to hire many extra dwarfs so the car could run continuously. Once in a while Cinderella takes the place of a dwarf and later gives each of them a special treat for performing admirably.....

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Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by The Silence on Tue Mar 13 23:03:47 2012, in response to Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line, posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Mar 13 17:19:46 2012.

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I think there is a spare induction charging unit lying around in the back from the "Jolly Trolly"

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Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by randyo on Wed Mar 14 14:49:47 2012, in response to Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line, posted by Rockparkman on Tue Mar 13 17:00:28 2012.

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It is a WH controller and while it my not be identical to, it is very similar to the controllers on the old North Shore interurbans and the New Haven heavyweight MUs.

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Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by numbersix on Wed Mar 14 20:11:00 2012, in response to Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line, posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Mar 13 22:34:16 2012.

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Disney burns older employees for fuel.

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Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by grand concourse on Thu Mar 15 01:10:56 2012, in response to Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line, posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Mar 13 22:34:16 2012.

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Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Mar 15 20:35:38 2012, in response to New Disney California Adventure Red Car line, posted by The Silence on Tue Mar 13 16:32:36 2012.

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They did a good job reproducing the "Hollywood" car (my favorite PE cars) :)

However, the trackage looks narrow-gauge (similar to LARy) rather than standard gauge, which PE used. Maybe that was due to space constraints.

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Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by The Silence on Thu Mar 15 21:46:52 2012, in response to Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Mar 15 20:35:38 2012.

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this is Disney we're talking about.

you check reality at the door.

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Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by grand concourse on Thu Mar 15 23:34:54 2012, in response to Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line, posted by The Silence on Thu Mar 15 21:46:52 2012.

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Well usually they try to get most details correct. So I guess it must be space, since CA doesn't have it compared to its florida counterpart.

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Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by The Silence on Fri Mar 16 00:11:16 2012, in response to Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line, posted by grand concourse on Thu Mar 15 23:34:54 2012.

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Disney doesn't build standard gauge trains because they don't scale properly to their surroundings.

4 out of the 5 steam railroads are 36" gauge. tokyo uses 30". the trains appear larger becuase everything around them is built to a similar scale.

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Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 07:04:40 2012, in response to Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line, posted by The Silence on Thu Mar 15 21:46:52 2012.

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Well Duh.

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Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 07:11:42 2012, in response to Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Mar 15 20:35:38 2012.

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"Maybe" due to space constraints? Everything is smaller there, as it has to be. And even if that wasn't the case, this is California's Disneyland. They are in the middle of a neighborhood there, they don't have the vast space they have in Florida. It's LITERALLY in a neighborhood. There are homes on the outskirts that look right at the Disney property at the end of their streets.

For example, Disney is just on the other side of those trees at the end of this street:


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Here too on Katella....the real world on the right, and Disney on the left. You can even see the rides from the street. There's no comparison to Florida's set up.


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Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line

Posted by grand concourse on Wed Mar 21 11:43:56 2012, in response to Re: New Disney California Adventure Red Car line, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 16 07:11:42 2012.

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