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SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by via Pelham on Wed Feb 22 04:10:41 2012

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Some news on SAS construction to spice up things around here...

http://www.ny1.com/content/news_beats/transit/156316/ny1-exclusive--subway-blasts-rattling-historic-ues-homes--owners-say

http://www.ny1.com/content/news_beats/transit/156422/mta-to-monitor-noise-from-ues-tunnel-blasting

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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by vfrt on Wed Feb 22 11:01:19 2012, in response to SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by via Pelham on Wed Feb 22 04:10:41 2012.

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They aren't NIMBYs, just people who understandably don't want their homes damaged.

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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Feb 22 12:38:34 2012, in response to Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by vfrt on Wed Feb 22 11:01:19 2012.

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Their decades long struggle against constructing this subway is what led the MTA do go to the deep bore route. Had they been willing to endure s short period of disruption, cut and cover would have negated any need for the use of explosives.

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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Feb 22 13:09:22 2012, in response to SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by via Pelham on Wed Feb 22 04:10:41 2012.

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These nouveau riche folks want to live in a city but don't want to put up with what, unfortunately, is part of life in a city. A city that doesn't grow and build isn't a healthy city. They chose to live there. There IS a solution - my wife snores to beat the band. What do I do? I go to sleep with a pair of -35db Peltor earmuffs on. End of problem.

wayne


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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 22 13:14:28 2012, in response to Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Feb 22 13:09:22 2012.

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Nouveau riche are the respectable kind of rich. It should not be used as pejorative.

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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by via Pelham on Wed Feb 22 13:22:37 2012, in response to Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 22 13:14:28 2012.

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Nouveau riche are anything but respectable.

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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Feb 22 14:57:33 2012, in response to Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by via Pelham on Wed Feb 22 13:22:37 2012.

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IAWTP.

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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 22 15:14:23 2012, in response to Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by vfrt on Wed Feb 22 11:01:19 2012.

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Do these people want better transit on the ES or not? Business owners along the original IRT route complained too.

Maybe these complainers are the ones who take taxis everywhere and never set foot in the subway.



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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by El-Train on Wed Feb 22 16:59:07 2012, in response to SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by via Pelham on Wed Feb 22 04:10:41 2012.

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These UES goobers man........same ones who are trying to block the building of additional entrances for the crowded-as-hell 68th St. 6 station because it'll bring "noise and crime" to their quiet block. Lame.

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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 22 21:40:57 2012, in response to Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 22 13:14:28 2012.

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trust fund brats are the total opposite of respectable.

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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by grand concourse on Wed Feb 22 23:49:40 2012, in response to Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by El-Train on Wed Feb 22 16:59:07 2012.

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agreed, especially about the 68th st issue.

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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Feb 22 23:52:41 2012, in response to Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 22 15:14:23 2012.

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I'd say so.

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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 23 02:20:37 2012, in response to Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 22 21:40:57 2012.

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Noveau riche=New rich. i.e. not dynastic rich.

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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 23 02:21:27 2012, in response to Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by via Pelham on Wed Feb 22 13:22:37 2012.

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You prefer dynastic types? Or do you believe we should all live under communism?

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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by via Pelham on Thu Feb 23 02:41:39 2012, in response to Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 23 02:21:27 2012.

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I prefer neither. In fact, their isn't about preferring a specific type of rich people. I couldn't care less for them. This is about benefitting the majority. And, I never said anything about communism.

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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Feb 23 03:44:47 2012, in response to Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Feb 22 23:52:41 2012.

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to make an omelet a few eggs are broken, if this was a poor area in town you'd never hear a word about this.

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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Feb 23 04:15:04 2012, in response to Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Feb 23 03:44:47 2012.

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True!

If they had been able to do cut-and-cover, this probably would have been a lot faster and they probably would have in the end had an improved roadway to boot when it was finished!

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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by vfrt on Thu Feb 23 12:50:14 2012, in response to Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Feb 23 04:15:04 2012.

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But the issue remains. Is the blasting damaging buildings?

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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Feb 23 14:22:48 2012, in response to Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Feb 22 12:38:34 2012.

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I took a look at Second Avenue just last Friday afternoon. I'd say that even with the deep-bore, the street's pretty f***ed up. With cut-and-cover, the job likely would've been cheaper, easier to expand in the future, and not that much more disruptive than what's actually happening. After all, cut & cover's being used to build the stations anyway...

And there would have been much less, if any, need to use explosives.

Oh well.

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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Feb 23 14:24:00 2012, in response to Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 22 15:14:23 2012.

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I suspect that once the SAS is in service- and I'm much more optimistic on that point than orginally was- these same folks will make heavy use of it.

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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 23 19:29:29 2012, in response to Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 23 02:20:37 2012.

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lol!

thats the fun part about everything..old money mixed with new money makes "ehhh" money.

now its time for some best fish.

[trust fund brats trust fund is "new money" to them,ie they didnt have it to spend before.with a dont drive junk clause..]

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Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 23 20:30:57 2012, in response to Re: SAS Blasting Rattles UES NIMBYs (residents), posted by via Pelham on Thu Feb 23 02:41:39 2012.

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There have to be some rich people for a properly functioning capitalist economy.

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