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Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube] |
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Posted by jabrams on Tue Jan 24 22:18:00 2012, in response to East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube], posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Jan 24 22:03:41 2012. Since that appears to be above ground, what do it exit from? Why is that exit above ground |
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Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube] |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Jan 25 14:51:47 2012, in response to Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube], posted by jabrams on Tue Jan 24 22:18:00 2012. Because it is exiting into the Sunnyside Yard in Queens. |
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Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube] |
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Posted by mshull on Wed Jan 25 15:03:36 2012, in response to Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube], posted by jabrams on Tue Jan 24 22:18:00 2012. This is parallel to the Northeast Corridor in Sunnyside Yard.LIRR trains will depart from the NEC, then take this tunnel under Sunnyside Yard to the existing 63rd Street Tunnel. Once in Manhattan, trains turn the corner under Park Ave and the single track fans out to 4 on the upper level and 4 on the lower level at the station. Because the 63rd Street tunnel is only two tracks, there will only be one track in each direction. They are working on both ends of the 63rd Street Tunnel right now. TBMs are working in Queens, and miners are working in Manhattan on the station shell. |
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Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube] |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jan 25 20:59:54 2012, in response to Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube], posted by mshull on Wed Jan 25 15:03:36 2012. The design is sick..The 63rd st tunnel is the "BOTTLE NECK"... |
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Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube] |
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Posted by mkeit on Wed Jan 25 23:18:11 2012, in response to Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube], posted by jabrams on Tue Jan 24 22:18:00 2012. It has since moved, but it was visible from 39 st Bridge |
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Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube] |
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Posted by JRice on Thu Jan 26 12:48:38 2012, in response to Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube], posted by Edwards! on Wed Jan 25 20:59:54 2012. Ther is no bottle neck in the existing tunnel. One track each way is more than enough to move the trains before they get to the Wyes and head to the two caverns. |
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Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube] |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jan 27 19:55:53 2012, in response to Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube], posted by mshull on Wed Jan 25 15:03:36 2012. Are there plans for the LIRR to wrong rail in the 63Rd St. Tunnel during peak travel hours for brief periods of time? |
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Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube] |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Fri Jan 27 20:33:51 2012, in response to Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube], posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jan 27 19:55:53 2012. these days there is no wrong railing, all signal systems these days provide for any track to be used in any direction. |
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Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube] |
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Posted by JRice on Mon Jan 30 13:57:06 2012, in response to Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube], posted by Avid Reader on Fri Jan 27 19:55:53 2012. The bottle necks are the interlocking in Queens (3 + yard to 1) and back out from the caverns to one track, so there is no need during normal operations. |
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Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube] |
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Posted by Fisk ave Jim on Mon Jan 30 14:13:28 2012, in response to East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube], posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Jan 24 22:03:41 2012. Will the double deckers & diesels fit or is the tube strictly for the M series cars?? |
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Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube] |
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Posted by mshull on Mon Jan 30 14:15:22 2012, in response to Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube], posted by JRice on Mon Jan 30 13:57:06 2012. No it's not 3 to 1.There are 3 main tracks departing from NEC towards to 63rd Street Tunnel. Approaching the 63rd Street Tunnel, those tracks merge into two. At approximately the same point, two yard leads merge. So it's either 3 to 2 or 5 to 2 depending on if you are counting the non-revenue yard tracks. It appears that the middle of the three tracks will be mostly used by Port Washington Branch trains because of the configuration of Harold Interlocking and the desire to keep Amtrak and LIRR trains separate. |
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Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube] |
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Posted by dinky on Mon Jan 30 19:23:53 2012, in response to Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube], posted by Fisk ave Jim on Mon Jan 30 14:13:28 2012. I don't think the 63st tunnel has clearance for the LIRR double deckers. |
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Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube] |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 30 20:26:25 2012, in response to East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube], posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Jan 24 22:03:41 2012. All that money blown, and they coulda used the TBM to build a "Union Station" downtown instead for maybe the same amount of money. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Jan 30 20:38:02 2012, in response to Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube], posted by dinky on Mon Jan 30 19:23:53 2012. nope just M1/3 and 7 any thing higher would not fit. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Jan 30 20:38:36 2012, in response to Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube], posted by Fisk ave Jim on Mon Jan 30 14:13:28 2012. just M3 and M7 nothing else fit. |
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Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube] |
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Posted by JRice on Thu Feb 2 12:25:25 2012, in response to Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube], posted by mshull on Mon Jan 30 14:15:22 2012. There is only one yard lead track, and there will not be trains coming from the Mid-day Storage Yard during the morning rush, so more accurate is 2 into 1 for GCT bound morning service.GCT bound Port Washington service would be exclusive to the A Tunnel along the west side of the mainline during normal operations. |
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Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube] |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Feb 3 16:38:57 2012, in response to Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube], posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Jan 30 20:38:36 2012. Typical poor planning although the MTA can't be blamed for this one since the tunnel was planned long before the creation of the MTA. |
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Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube] |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Feb 3 17:37:31 2012, in response to Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube], posted by randyo on Fri Feb 3 16:38:57 2012. At that time, Double Decker or Multi Levels were being phased out in favor of three X two seating.Short sighted, yes. |
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Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube] |
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Posted by PATHman on Fri Feb 3 18:11:02 2012, in response to Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube], posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Jan 30 20:38:36 2012. At least this will free up space at Penn for more direct trains to Montauk, Port Jefferson, though my fantasy of a Cannonball from Grand Central to Montauk won't come into fruition. |
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Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube] |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Feb 5 15:47:01 2012, in response to Re: East Side Access (TBM) - 1/24/2012 Update [youtube], posted by PATHman on Fri Feb 3 18:11:02 2012. I wish there'd be one weekend train using Amfleet or maybe ACES type of coaches with better seats for the Montauk runs. Charge Amtrak like prices on it. I'd bet it would still be popular. |
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