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WMATA: Phase II of DCMP in flux |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Wed Jan 25 23:40:01 2012 As it stands now we don't know if Phase II will be 11.6 miles with 6 station or 5.2 miles with 4 stations. This is not the first time Loudoun County has threatened pull out of the project.Loudoun County may back out of Dulles Rail Project Hank Silverberg 01 25 2012 wtop.com Fairfax County news briefs Airports authority prepares for bids on rail project 01 25 2012 washingtonpost.com This one appears to be nothing more then trial balloon. Board weighs eliminating Metro stop at Dulles Liz Essley 01 18 12 Washington Examiner |
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Posted by PATHman on Wed Jan 25 23:46:30 2012, in response to WMATA: Phase II of DCMP in flux, posted by Sand Box John on Wed Jan 25 23:40:01 2012. The only places it needs to stop at are Tysons Corner and Dulles. I couldn't care less about the intermediate stops. |
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Posted by EastSideRider on Thu Jan 26 01:04:51 2012, in response to Re: WMATA: Phase II of DCMP in flux, posted by PATHman on Wed Jan 25 23:46:30 2012. So the BUSY stops that people already take many buses from (Wiehle Av, Reston Pkwy, Herndon, etc) and shop/visit are not important also? They'll add to the usefulness of the line.Personally, I want the whole line as promised...well, I want more than that, but nobody on this site likes fantasy (or, half the time practically, critical thinking) so i'll stop here. |
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Re: WMATA: Phase II of DCMP in flux |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Thu Jan 26 07:21:00 2012, in response to Re: WMATA: Phase II of DCMP in flux, posted by PATHman on Wed Jan 25 23:46:30 2012. The only places it needs to stop at are Tysons Corner and Dulles. I couldn't care less about the intermediate stops.If you were to tell that to the folks that are getting taxed to build the line, They would tell you we want no part of it. The project would have never gotten off the ground without the intermediate stops. This project, contrary to all the propaganda, was never about providing rail transit primarily to Dulles Airport. The thing that got the ball rolling was the detour through Tysons Corner. The idea of detouring through Tysons Corner was not even in the minds of the folks that approved the original ARS (Adopted Regional System) 1968. The passengers using the station at the airport will be a fraction of the total number of boardings generated by the line. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Re: WMATA: Phase II of DCMP in flux |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Thu Jan 26 07:52:27 2012, in response to Re: WMATA: Phase II of DCMP in flux, posted by EastSideRider on Thu Jan 26 01:04:51 2012. Personally, I want the whole line as promised. . .It my opinion, the only reason why there are 2 station in Loudoun County is the justify the cost of building yard and shop west of the airport. If you were the delete the 2 station in Loudoun County the yard lead would be close to 2 miles long. There isn't a tract of land east of the airport large enough to accommodate a yard and shop of the needed capacity. The built in expansion capacity at the Falls Church yard is not large enough to allow the deletion of the yard and shop west of the airport. . . . well, I want more than that, but nobody on this site likes fantasy. . . I do, here is one for you: My WMATA fantasy track schematic. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Jan 26 09:48:33 2012, in response to WMATA: Phase II of DCMP in flux, posted by Sand Box John on Wed Jan 25 23:40:01 2012. Will this have more elevated trackage than the other Metrorail lines? |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Thu Jan 26 10:22:01 2012, in response to Re: WMATA: Phase II of DCMP in flux, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Jan 26 09:48:33 2012. Will this have more elevated trackage than the other Metrorail lines?Don't know the exact figure, However I believe if phase II is built as presently planned (elevated station at airport), the mileage of elevated trackage along the new branch alone will exceed the total number miles of elevated trackage in the existing system. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by zuckie13 on Thu Jan 26 19:27:13 2012, in response to Re: WMATA: Phase II of DCMP in flux, posted by Sand Box John on Thu Jan 26 07:52:27 2012. Express tracks - you're funny...I wouldn't mind the run up to Dorsey. Would be less annoying that driving to Greenbelt. |
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Re: WMATA: Phase II of DCMP in flux |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Thu Jan 26 22:15:47 2012, in response to Re: WMATA: Phase II of DCMP in flux, posted by zuckie13 on Thu Jan 26 19:27:13 2012. Express tracks - you're funny...You will notice that most of the stations in the downtown core serve all 4 tracks. The schema is such that all of the lines that pass through downtown core can do so using either the express track or the local track and they can switch between the 2 between almost any pair of stations. The primary purpose of third and forth track it to increase through put capacity not to provide express service. I'm still working on my Baltimore Metro fantasy track schematic. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri Jan 27 09:44:47 2012, in response to Re: WMATA: Phase II of DCMP in flux, posted by Sand Box John on Thu Jan 26 07:52:27 2012. I'd like to see a map version of that one! (just kidding) Very well thought out. One of my fantasy Metro schemas has the Yellow Line continuing past Fort Belvoir out to Potomac Mills via Pohick, Woodbridge, Lorton etc. with one of the intermediate stops between Hybla Valley and Fort Belvoir eliminated (haven't decided on a name for it yet) but your vision looks OK - provided the Ft Belvoir stop is where I think it is - north side of US 1 just west of Fairfax County Pkwy - a cut station like Grosvenor. |
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Re: WMATA: Phase II of DCMP in flux |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Fri Jan 27 23:16:39 2012, in response to Re: WMATA: Phase II of DCMP in flux, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri Jan 27 09:44:47 2012. I'd like to see a map version of that one! (just kidding) Very well thought out.The track schematic is based on an updated version of this:  One of my fantasy Metro schemas has the Yellow Line continuing past Fort Belvoir out to Potomac Mills via Pohick, Woodbridge, Lorton etc. with one of the intermediate stops between Hybla Valley and Fort Belvoir eliminated (haven't decided on a name for it yet) but your vision looks OK - provided the Ft Belvoir stop is where I think it is - north side of US 1 just west of Fairfax County Pkwy - a cut station like Grosvenor. I put 2 stops between Hybla Valley and Fort Belvoir because the Hybla Valley stop is just north of the shopping center, Engleside is kind of miss named it is closer to Old Mount Vernon Road then Engleside proper, Woodlawn is at just north of Mount Vernon Memorial Highway. Fort Belvoir is west of the main gate. The entire route from the portal just south of Kings Highway is an elevated on the center line of the VA US-1 Richmond Highway easement. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Re: WMATA: Phase II of DCMP in flux |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 28 03:14:08 2012, in response to Re: WMATA: Phase II of DCMP in flux, posted by Sand Box John on Fri Jan 27 23:16:39 2012. I see you included the Columbia Pike line...wonder why they never got around to build that one.More service to the Southeast..Love it! Pink line? LRT lines? |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Sat Jan 28 07:38:27 2012, in response to Re: WMATA: Phase II of DCMP in flux, posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 28 03:14:08 2012. I see you included the Columbia Pike line...wonder why they never got around to build that one.Cost benefit, All of it would have been in subway. With light rail being planed for that corridor I don't think it will ever be built. I think it should be built next with all the consolidation of DOD jobs at the Mark Center. Pink line? Decent contrasting color LRT lines? None. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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