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R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Tue Jan 10 18:29:49 2012

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Greetings all!!! I recieved word yesterday that the 8 long stored R-32s at Fresh Pond Yard were being prepared for movement to ENY Yard so that the graffitied pair could (Finally!)be cleaned.Unfortunatly the R-32s would not "Charge" properly,so the move was scrubbed yesterday.Today,6 R-42s ran "Light" to Fresh Pond Yard around 11:00am to pick up the graffitied pair of '32s.So,now there are 6 R-32s remaining in Fresh Pond Yard at this time.No,there are no plans to reactivate these cars to my knowledge at this time.I hope someone was lucky to see R-42s on the Myrtle Avenue Line as it has been many a moon since the R-42s ventured this way...

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jan 10 18:44:26 2012, in response to R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Tue Jan 10 18:29:49 2012.

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Whoever thought that train was going to charge up after sitting there for over a year ought to have his head examined, especially it was known there was at least one b/o compressor on it.

IMO, the best and safest way to move it is 2 cars at a time with 6 R42's as horses. If needed, it gets flagged to B'way Myrtle.

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by mike cruz on Tue Jan 10 22:29:44 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jan 10 18:44:26 2012.

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All this for the grafitti? Just send a car cleaner there to throw a patch over it, these cars are supposed to be scrapped aren't they? (personally I don't like the scrap idea).

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jan 10 22:31:05 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by mike cruz on Tue Jan 10 22:29:44 2012.

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Patch?

There is third rail the car cleaner would have to climb over on the yard.

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 11 00:09:08 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jan 10 18:44:26 2012.

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Hopefully they got the hint. It was disgusting that cars like that were just sitting there in clear view of every M train passing by there.

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by monorail on Wed Jan 11 01:21:52 2012, in response to R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Tue Jan 10 18:29:49 2012.

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great!! let 'em clean it off so that the cars can be redone!!

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Jan 11 13:41:08 2012, in response to R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Tue Jan 10 18:29:49 2012.

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If the cars are being scrapped, would it be easier to move them to an area of the yard that's less easily visible from passing M trains, or simply turn the car around so the graffiti isn't visible?

--Mark

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Jan 11 13:45:53 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jan 10 22:31:05 2012.

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Quite a few third rails........not the safest course!!!

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Jan 11 13:47:20 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jan 10 18:44:26 2012.

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Whoever thought that train was going to charge up after sitting there for over a year ought to have his head examined, especially it was known there was at least one b/o compressor on it.

How often does good sense get employed in our business here??? Let's be honest!!! :-D

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by monorail on Wed Jan 11 14:05:37 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Jan 11 13:41:08 2012.

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'or simply turn the car around so the graffiti isn't visible?'

I'm sure the people living in the buildings would be able to see them...

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by MattW on Wed Jan 11 14:26:53 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jan 10 22:31:05 2012.

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There track qualified. At least they should be if they work in yards like CIY or 207th that have cleaners clean train laid up in the yard.

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Jan 11 14:35:03 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 11 00:09:08 2012.

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Indeed, not good P/R by any sense of the word. Still, I thought that the use of a bag of chips in the piece was rather the novel idea.

wayne


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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by mike cruz on Wed Jan 11 15:48:55 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by MattW on Wed Jan 11 14:26:53 2012.

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Thanks Matt that's what I was thinkin, or just have a track worker paint the patch.

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Jan 11 17:02:02 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jan 10 18:44:26 2012.

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Whoever thought that train was going to charge up after sitting there for over a year ought to have his head examined, especially it was known there was at least one b/o compressor on it.

Could they have used diesels to make the move ?

Bill Newkirk



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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jan 11 18:11:10 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by MattW on Wed Jan 11 14:26:53 2012.

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How can you safely remove graffiti from a car when the third rail is on the same side of the graffiti?

Are you supposed to stand on top of the third rail protection board?

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jan 11 18:13:50 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Jan 11 13:41:08 2012.

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They can turn the car around after they build a grade crossing across Metropolitan Ave. and build a Lutheran-ALl Faiths Cemetery loop.

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jan 11 18:24:16 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jan 11 18:11:10 2012.

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Nah ... an aluminum ladder wedged between that and the outer rail should do the trick. :)

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by MattW on Wed Jan 11 18:41:03 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jan 11 18:11:10 2012.

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Cut power to the tracks, place rubber mats over the 3rd rail, and use wood ladders. How do you think track Dept. does rail jobs under power on the same side as the 3rd rail?

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by Queens Surface 295 on Wed Jan 11 19:01:35 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by mike cruz on Wed Jan 11 15:48:55 2012.

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Don't really think it's a good idea to paint stainless steel.

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by monorail on Wed Jan 11 20:01:43 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jan 11 18:11:10 2012.

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'How can you safely remove graffiti from a car when the third rail is on the same side of the graffiti?'


the graffiti got there, it can be removed just as safely....

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jan 11 20:42:22 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by monorail on Wed Jan 11 20:01:43 2012.

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Graffiti vandals work unsafely, car cleaners work safely.

In Jamaica Yard for example, graffiti is removed on a track putsode the barn. The yardmaster will spot the graffiti on the side where the third rail is on the clean side.

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jan 11 20:55:16 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by MattW on Wed Jan 11 18:41:03 2012.

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Now you need a GO. You have regular trains in there too, suppose you have to make a move?..........power is off.

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jan 11 20:56:00 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jan 11 20:42:22 2012.

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putsode=outside

Sorry.

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by MattW on Wed Jan 11 21:30:56 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jan 11 20:55:16 2012.

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Who said anything about turning off power for the whole yard? Pull the power on the track the train is on and the adjacent track from the knife switch that all yard tracks have. It doesn't have to be a big production/

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by monorail on Thu Jan 12 01:07:08 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jan 11 20:42:22 2012.

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'Graffiti vandals work unsafely, car cleaners work safely.'


as evidenced by all of the ones that got electrocuted....
car cleaners are 'supposed' to work safely, I'm sure they do not follow 'ALL' safety procedures......

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by monorail on Thu Jan 12 01:08:15 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by MattW on Wed Jan 11 21:30:56 2012.

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very true!

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jan 12 04:34:19 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by MattW on Wed Jan 11 21:30:56 2012.

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I'm sure there is a reason why the graffiti wasn't removed on site rather than the cars being taken away.

All I was doing was suggesting a possible reason as to the thinking by transit.

I'm done speculating, you can declare victory.

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jan 12 04:37:38 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by monorail on Thu Jan 12 01:07:08 2012.

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You win, I surrender. I'm tired of debating the issue.

In fact, I'm tired of the bullshit on this site, just like so many others who do not post here anymore.

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by MattW on Thu Jan 12 04:54:58 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jan 12 04:34:19 2012.

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There is no victory to declare, this was just a (friendly) discussion.

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by monorail on Thu Jan 12 06:13:06 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jan 12 04:37:38 2012.

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is that a 'good-bye'?

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by J trainloco on Thu Jan 12 10:19:11 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jan 12 04:37:38 2012.

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IAWTP.

I haven't been back for very long, but in the time I have been back, it seems like more than 50% of the posts are flame wars/personal attacks.

I like your posts Bill. I hope you won't leave.

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 12 10:26:31 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jan 12 04:37:38 2012.

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Bill you gonna take monorail seriously? Don't let it bother you brother.

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 12 11:08:56 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 12 10:26:31 2012.

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Actually Bill was taking the guy that suggested ways that the track could be shut off way too seriously too judging by the response...Bill, don't take everything so personally, he was just having a conversation. It's all good... :)

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 12 11:09:34 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by MattW on Thu Jan 12 04:54:58 2012.

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That's what I thought too, Bill's a good guy though, he must just be having a bad day.

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 12 11:17:54 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 12 11:08:56 2012.

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You mean monorail right? He likes to stir the pot. No ill intentions sorta lol.

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by mike cruz on Thu Jan 12 11:41:02 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Queens Surface 295 on Wed Jan 11 19:01:35 2012.

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The writers did it. why not?

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by mike cruz on Thu Jan 12 11:41:40 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by MattW on Wed Jan 11 18:41:03 2012.

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thank you Matt.

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 12 12:59:33 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 12 11:17:54 2012.

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No, not monorail, Matt.

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 12 13:09:55 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 12 12:59:33 2012.

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Thanks i just seen it as well...

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by MattW on Thu Jan 12 16:25:02 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 12 11:08:56 2012.

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I thought it was "all good", I certainly didn't mean to make it a ful blow argument.

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Jan 12 19:04:18 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 12 11:08:56 2012.

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IAWTP

That was actually one of monorail's saner posts (which isn't saying much) :)

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 12 19:14:36 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Jan 12 19:04:18 2012.

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People coming here, looking for "sane" ... LOL

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by monorail on Thu Jan 12 21:30:39 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by MattW on Thu Jan 12 16:25:02 2012.

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thee's no 'argument' here......

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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Jan 12 22:48:51 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Jan 11 13:47:20 2012.

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True Paul. Very True.


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They're Back......(was R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!)

Posted by Billy P. on Fri Jan 13 01:36:15 2012, in response to R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Tue Jan 10 18:29:49 2012.

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Squeaky-clean 3370 & 3371 returned to Fresh Pond yard tonight about 10:35 PM (and under their own power). Six R42s were used as horses. Cars are resting comfortably with the rest of their contemporaries on 12 track.

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Re: They're Back......(was R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!)

Posted by monorail on Fri Jan 13 05:05:12 2012, in response to They're Back......(was R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!), posted by Billy P. on Fri Jan 13 01:36:15 2012.

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awaiting a new paint job....


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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 13 06:37:19 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 12 19:14:36 2012.

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I am quite secure in my delusions
Rationality is not my cup of tea
I talk freely with my hallucinations
I am pleased to enjoy my insanity

Whenever I feel I am getting better
To SubChat I must quickly, quickly flee
I must show crazy symptoms to the letter
So I seek out those as badly bent as me!

LOL! :)


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Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jan 13 07:55:33 2012, in response to Re: R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Jan 11 14:35:03 2012.

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I wonder what Moe was thinking...

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Re: They're Back......(was R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!)

Posted by mike cruz on Fri Jan 13 11:15:12 2012, in response to They're Back......(was R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!), posted by Billy P. on Fri Jan 13 01:36:15 2012.

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so they brought em back? why are they there anyway?

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Re: They're Back......(was R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!)

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 13 12:50:00 2012, in response to They're Back......(was R-32s Moved From Fresh Pond Yard!!!), posted by Billy P. on Fri Jan 13 01:36:15 2012.

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If they are never to roll again, why are they there?

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