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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 8 08:52:35 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by BMTLines on Mon Aug 8 08:41:56 2011.

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Please tell me you'll include that hysterical statement by TS in the next episode of Turtle Soup!

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by BMTLines on Mon Aug 8 09:26:27 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 8 08:52:35 2011.

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It's priceless!!!! You can't make this stuff up!!!

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by BMTLines on Mon Aug 8 09:28:17 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 8 08:52:35 2011.

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The truly sad part is he really believes it!

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 8 09:32:22 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by BMTLines on Mon Aug 8 09:28:17 2011.

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Delusional, bizarre creature that he is...

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 8 09:41:28 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Railman718 on Sun Aug 7 18:47:29 2011.

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Bumpty bump bump bumper to the non answer...

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 09:59:06 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by Terrapin station on Mon Aug 8 08:10:57 2011.

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I've now lost track of the number of insults you've made. Of course you never get lost and if you did you would never admit it. (Go ahead respond with more nonsense like it's not true because you have to have the last word but don't expect me to respond.)

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 10:04:58 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 7 01:54:31 2011.

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Figures you only work in a mailroom.

Ineffective? How many bus routes have you changed that resulted in headways being decreased from every 10, 15, or 20 minutes to every 3 minutes?

How much money have you saved the mailroom?

I saved the MTA $4 million singlehandedly by catching an overpayment to a contractor that no one in Accounting had spotted.

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 10:06:17 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Aug 8 08:05:27 2011.

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Thanks.

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 10:09:55 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 23:51:03 2011.

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Are you saying I can't read a diagram? If I remember correctly I believe it showed that I should drive down the left side of the divided road? Why is that hard to believe from a GPS that thinks Dr stands for Doctor and not Drive when talking about highways?

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 10:12:48 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by hank eisenstein on Mon Aug 8 00:33:29 2011.

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Of course I saw the divider. But there are locations where there is a divider and traffic is going in the same direction on both sides. The road then eventually splits off into two different directions. However that wasn't the case this time. But a driver there for the first time would not know that.

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 10:19:31 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 23:51:27 2011.

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Then you don't see a problem with a sign that says "Arlington" that immediately sends you over a bridge to Arlington.

So if you are on the BQE and see a sign saying "Manhattan" you would have no problem if all of a sudden you find yourself on the Brooklyn Bridge when your intended destination is Downtown Brooklyn?

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 10:20:47 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 7 02:32:00 2011.

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Yes it did. The Washington Monument was in the direction of Arlington.

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 8 10:31:21 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 10:19:31 2011.

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I don't know what street you turned off of, but if you turned off of Independence Avenue, then you turned the wrong way, an impressive feat considering the Washington Monument is the tallest building near the intersection in question and quite visible, and also considering the Washington Monument isn't in Arlington and most people ought to know that, even tourists. If you turned left anywhere else, you passed the Washington Monument, still the tallest building by far in the area in question, so it is unclear how you missed it. Unless you were looking for parking, which is just a bad idea, why not use mass transit? (And DC signage often is left to be desired, but still, I don't get how you pulled this one off).

Your anecdotes in this thread don't instill the least bit of confidence in your navigation, driving, or decision making abilities IMHO...

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 8 10:31:46 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 10:20:47 2011.

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Since when?

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Aug 8 10:44:22 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 14:36:09 2011.

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One time I needed K Street SW. I was only a quarter-mile away and couldn't figure out how to get there from the map because the street was cut up into so many pieces.

It's only in three pieces. And to get between them, you just head one block north, one block east/west, then one block south. It's not exactly Queens.

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Aug 8 10:47:16 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 8 10:31:21 2011.

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Perhaps he means he turned off South Capitol Street onto the Southwest Freeway, then missed all the exits.

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 12:29:12 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by hank eisenstein on Mon Aug 8 00:32:01 2011.

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I wasn't quite at the bridge when I saw the sign that it was out about one mile before. However I had to backtrack several miles to get to the alternate road I needed. The sign was placed at the last intersection and that road did me no good.

Of course I notice one-way signs, detour signs, and pathfinding signs if they are correctly placed.

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 8 12:31:24 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 8 02:57:14 2011.

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Exit 13 is well past mile 14; Exit 14 is past mile 15; Exit 15 is at mile 16. But we can disagree. If the Belt IS supposed to be mileage-based, it's a rarity in the city...and NYS, for that matter.

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 8 12:39:30 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 12:29:12 2011.

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Then how could you allow yourself to be directed by GPS, even 'almost', onto the wrong side of a divided roadway?

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 12:42:02 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 8 10:31:21 2011.

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I don't remember the name of the street. It was the one on the southern side of the Mall. The monument was visible until you were within a few blocks of it. When I reached 14th Street, the left lane suddenly became a left turn only lane with no advance warning saying Arlington. I thought I needed to turn right but the center and left lanes were both turning left and I couldn't get out. Anyway I didn't think I would end up on the Bridge and thought I could just make a right on the next block. If I knew it was Arlington only, I would have tried harder to change lanes but I don't think it would have been possible unless I would just stopped and waited to the ire of those behind me. So I ended up seeing the Iwo Jima monument first and the Washington Monument on the way back.

If you think the Washington Monument is always visible try standing right outside the Empire State Building and see how obvious it appears to be. It looks like any other tall building.

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 8 12:42:04 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 8 07:08:42 2011.

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Thanks for the laugh. I've got no 'act' to clean up, because this is me. You, on the other hand, appear to be a fantastic actor.

I await the day you make me 'run away' before I would 'find myself on my back'.

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 12:42:28 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Aug 8 10:47:16 2011.

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That wasn't it.

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 12:43:47 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 7 02:26:40 2011.

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Believe what you want. See if I care.

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 12:54:25 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 7 02:05:00 2011.

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In stop and go traffic drivers are sometimes more considerate and let you in especially when an exit is coming up. At 30 mph and there is a gap of 3 car lengths, you have to force your way in leaving only one car length ahead and behind so everyone is now tailgating and that's dangerous.

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 12:55:21 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 8 10:31:46 2011.

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If you are coming from the Capitol.

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 8 12:58:05 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 12:54:25 2011.

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No, I have found it to be like I have described it.

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 12:58:36 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 23:52:13 2011.

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You were saying if someone doesn't let you in, you can get in ahead of him. To do that, you have to speed up.

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 8 13:13:01 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Aug 8 08:05:27 2011.

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What does that have to do with my post? People who know where they are either don't need GPS, or realize when their GPS is wrong.

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 8 13:14:33 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Railman718 on Sun Aug 7 18:47:29 2011.

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How much do you think a car costs and how much do you think a GPS costs? The latter is less than a month's payment for the former.

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 8 13:15:07 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Aug 7 18:57:51 2011.

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Yes, that's true. Thank you.

Haters gotta hate and resenters gotta resent.

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 8 13:15:38 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 10:04:58 2011.

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LOL!

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 8 13:16:12 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 8 13:14:33 2011.

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How much do you think a car costs and how much do you think a GPS costs?

I know somebody who brought a USED car for 100 bucks..

Since you never said a "new" car am i right?





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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 8 13:17:00 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 10:09:55 2011.

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You obviously had a crappy GPS.

As for your GPS telling you to drive on the left side of a divided street, why are you so obsessed with following the obviously wrong directions of a GPS?

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 8 13:17:04 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 8 13:15:07 2011.

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Kinda hard to hate a nobody though...

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 8 13:17:30 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 10:12:48 2011.

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Unless you see any evidence that such a road is one way, you should assume it isn't.

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 8 13:18:16 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 10:19:31 2011.

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YES! Because if I were going to someplace other than Manhattan, I would not rely on a sign that says "Manhattan" as my sole wayfinding method.

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 8 13:20:04 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 12:42:02 2011.

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The Empire State Building and Washington Monument are not the least bit comparable. How many other obelisks are there in DC? And there are no buildings right next to the Washington Monument to obscure the view.

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 8 13:23:56 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 8 12:31:24 2011.

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Milepost-based numbering can't possibly be exact, it's not like they use decimals.

It is half-assed though. 2 and 3 should be 3A and 3B and 8 should be 7C. And the signs at Flatbush clearly establish Exit 13 as 2¾ miles away (i.e. should be 14).

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 8 13:24:57 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 7 01:51:55 2011.

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 8 13:25:17 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 12:54:25 2011.

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Nobody tailgates. Everyone slows down slightly and long enough to increase distances.

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 8 13:26:08 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Aug 5 16:13:36 2011.

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Not true. Not every two-way roadway with a median has one-way signs or do not enter signs posted on every corner.

Huh????

Why would you expect a two-way roadway with a median to have one-way signs or do not enter signs??????? We were talking about a one-way street.

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 8 13:26:35 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 12:58:36 2011.

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That's in those situations where the exiters are nearly stopped but the through lane isn't. Like getting from the second left lane on the Gowanus into the BQE.

And it still doesn't involve slowing down. It involves maintaining speed until ready,

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 8 13:27:47 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 8 13:16:12 2011.

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You can buy a USED GPS too.

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Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 8 13:27:53 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Aug 8 10:09:55 2011.

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Just because that's where the arrow on the GPS points doesn't mean it expects you to violate the rules of the road, or not pay attention to signage and other road markings.

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 8 13:28:53 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 8 13:26:35 2011.

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And it still doesn't involve slowing down. It involves maintaining speed until ready,

Bingo.

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 8 13:29:03 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 8 13:27:47 2011.

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You didnt mention that.

Still i just learned something new, thank you.

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 8 13:30:28 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 8 13:29:03 2011.

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You didnt mention that.

He didn't mentioned a "used" car either. You brought that up.

Still i just learned something new, thank you.

You didn't know that you could buy used products? Weren't you just talking about used cars?

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 8 13:30:30 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 8 13:29:03 2011.

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Why should I have mentioned that?

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 8 13:31:08 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 8 13:17:04 2011.

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That's exactly why I don't hate you.

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Re: Signage and Customer Service

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 8 13:32:31 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 8 13:30:30 2011.

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The same reasoning you should have mentioned a used car right?

Used GPS amazing, which genius figured that out...

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