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Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks

Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jun 1 06:36:27 2011, in response to M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks, posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu May 26 21:43:43 2011.

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Personally:

I would have the M go to Queens Plaza on this G.O., mainly so those looking for uptown Lexington Avenue Service can transfer from the M to the 6 at Lexington Avenue-51st Street while at the same time preventing any disruptions on the F.

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Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks

Posted by arnine on Wed Jun 1 06:59:42 2011, in response to Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jun 1 06:36:27 2011.

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There is not much of a disruption. M pulls in M pulls out. QPlaza is not a good choice as you may delay the E as at QPlaza you have to fumigate while at 57/6 no fumigation is necessary.

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Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks

Posted by UTC Bus Roster on Wed Jun 1 09:39:18 2011, in response to Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks, posted by monorail on Thu May 26 22:52:16 2011.

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WOW!!! It can turn around on the platform without damaging the platform? WOW, I gotta see this!!!
LOL

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Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks

Posted by William A. Padron on Wed Jun 1 12:46:55 2011, in response to Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue May 31 22:20:12 2011.

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Correction, after viewing the DVD last night, it was Larry who smashed his violin on the table, as he was trying to get at the parrot escaping. If you look closely, his dialogue about lamenting of his loss may have been dubbed after filming was complete.

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Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks

Posted by N6 Limited on Sat Jun 4 19:17:13 2011, in response to Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks, posted by arnine on Wed Jun 1 06:59:42 2011.

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So northbound, the F would get priority at Broadway-Lafyette, so that it isn't directly behind a M?

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Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks

Posted by N6 Limited on Sat Jun 4 19:19:34 2011, in response to Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jun 1 02:52:46 2011.

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Does/will the M train pull into 57th st on the Northbound Platform or the Southbound Platform?

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Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks

Posted by arnine on Sat Jun 4 19:24:41 2011, in response to Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks, posted by N6 Limited on Sat Jun 4 19:17:13 2011.

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Good question, I don't know the answer. I only know that the M pulls in to 57/6 & pulls back out from what I have read here.

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Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks

Posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Jun 4 19:59:21 2011, in response to Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks, posted by N6 Limited on Sat Jun 4 19:19:34 2011.

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There is only one platform. The M pulls in on the northbound track. It leaves the station by going southbound on the northbound track, then using the crossover south of the station.

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Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks

Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jun 5 01:08:58 2011, in response to Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks, posted by arnine on Wed Jun 1 06:59:42 2011.

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I don't think you would normally:

Fumigation also would not take as long since the M is only eight cars as opposed to the 10 on other trains. It could also be done where the fumigation is sped up at Queens Plaza and the trains that come in there have to go back to Metropolitan if the M goes to Queens Plaza (similar to what is happening here with the 57th street terminal).

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Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jun 5 06:53:11 2011, in response to Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jun 5 01:08:58 2011.

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Not fumigating the train at all at 57/6 takes even less time, regardless of how many cars the train has.

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Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks

Posted by arnine on Sun Jun 5 06:55:08 2011, in response to Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jun 5 01:08:58 2011.

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No, you can't do that at QPlz you have to fumigate as you cannot have people on board train when t/o changes ends during the relay. It is a safety and liability matter. Someone can attack the t/o or claim the t/o attacked them. Also, if the train craps out during relay, what about the people stuck? Again, a liability issue. It costs way more to fumigate as you need platform c/r's. Your idea is not practical sorry.

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Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks

Posted by arnine on Sun Jun 5 06:56:12 2011, in response to Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jun 5 06:53:11 2011.

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+1

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Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks

Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jun 5 07:18:11 2011, in response to Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Jun 1 06:36:27 2011.

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I would have the M go to Queens Plaza on this G.O., mainly so those looking for uptown Lexington Avenue Service can transfer from the M to the 6 at Lexington Avenue-51st Street while at the same time preventing any disruptions on the F.

So you would rather have the train disrupt the Echo instead of the Fox..

Good Job...

Bad Idea though.

The way it is now works well SEEN it already, thanks...



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Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks

Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Jun 5 09:34:40 2011, in response to Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks, posted by Railman718 on Sun Jun 5 07:18:11 2011.

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How about running the M to 23 St-Ely Ave.Court Square? It has a crossover just south of the station like 57-6th Ave. does, so no need to relay. This would allow the transfer to the 6 at Lexington Ave., and also a transfer to the G at Court Square. One possible drawback would be that, because it has side platforms, either Ms returning to Manhattan would be leaving from the northbound platform, or those arriving would have to discharge at the southbound platform.

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Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks

Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jun 5 09:41:57 2011, in response to Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks, posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Jun 5 09:34:40 2011.

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Might as well keep it the way it is now. You still plugging something. At least with the 57th street move there's a problem that F can go through 53rd street...

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Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks

Posted by N6 Limited on Sun Jun 5 15:01:50 2011, in response to Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks, posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Jun 4 19:59:21 2011.

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Thanks, I meant track. If a southbound F enters the station, which train gets priority?

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Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Jun 5 16:24:47 2011, in response to Re: M returns to 57-6th in 2 weeks, posted by checkthedoorlight on Fri May 27 16:22:38 2011.

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