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NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 00:37:34 2011

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by Hank eisenstein on Fri May 6 01:56:30 2011, in response to NJT Comet V 6078, posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 00:37:34 2011.

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You should really check where you're focusing.

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 02:09:52 2011, in response to Re: NJT Comet V 6078, posted by Hank eisenstein on Fri May 6 01:56:30 2011.

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And what is accoridng to the Gospel of Weinberg wring with this pic?

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by Hank eisenstein on Fri May 6 03:17:57 2011, in response to Re: NJT Comet V 6078, posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 02:09:52 2011.

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Somewhat out of focus. And that's MY opinion, and has nothing to do with anyone else's.

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 6 06:07:21 2011, in response to NJT Comet V 6078, posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 00:37:34 2011.

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OH. MY. GAWD.

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by arnine on Fri May 6 07:28:53 2011, in response to NJT Comet V 6078, posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 00:37:34 2011.

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Great Pic :)

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 07:40:04 2011, in response to Re: NJT Comet V 6078, posted by arnine on Fri May 6 07:28:53 2011.

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Thank you.

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Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 07:51:53 2011, in response to Re: NJT Comet V 6078, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 6 06:07:21 2011.

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Why haven't you left this place yet. Nobody except a few people who are your lapdogs wants you here.

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 07:52:32 2011, in response to Re: NJT Comet V 6078, posted by Hank eisenstein on Fri May 6 03:17:57 2011.

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Explain.

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 6 08:09:34 2011, in response to Re: NJT Comet V 6078, posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 07:52:32 2011.

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What's to explain? It is out of focus and I agree with him and that's my opinion and nobody elses.

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by 3-9 on Fri May 6 10:08:08 2011, in response to NJT Comet V 6078, posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 00:37:34 2011.

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1) Is this with your new camera?

2) Are you still resizing your pics? If so,
a) Larger or smaller?
b) Resizing your JPEG to another JPEG?
Remember that resizing pics will not generally make them better, just bigger. Also, converting from JPEG to JPEG means you've permanently lost picture information at least twice.

3) If you're saving it as a JPEG, what quality level are you saving it at? Higher is generally better, esp. if you are keeping the pics for posterity.

4) Is there a setting in the camera for edge sharpness?

The fuzziness is so general that it may be more than just a focusing problem, esp. because the overhead wires are virtually disappearing.

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 6 10:16:25 2011, in response to Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 07:51:53 2011.

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SMH

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri May 6 10:18:47 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 6 10:16:25 2011.

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I have to agree, he seems to get mad every time someone offers him constructive criticism instead of learning from it.

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 6 10:22:35 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri May 6 10:18:47 2011.

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BASKET CASE CLOSED.

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by BMTLines on Fri May 6 10:29:20 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri May 6 10:18:47 2011.

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Is this what you consider "constructive criticism"?

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 10:32:41 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by BMTLines on Fri May 6 10:29:20 2011.

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I don't think there has been any reefings in the past month. Maybe Brian is trying to get some.

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 10:35:38 2011, in response to Re: NJT Comet V 6078, posted by 3-9 on Fri May 6 10:08:08 2011.

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New camera, the only thing I did was rename the file for organization.

There's a sharpness setting. I have it on the hard setting right now.

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri May 6 10:36:51 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by BMTLines on Fri May 6 10:29:20 2011.

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Ok, that might not have been the nicest way to put it, but let's be honest, his photos are pretty subpar.

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by BMTLines on Fri May 6 10:39:51 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri May 6 10:36:51 2011.

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OTOH This isn't a photo critique site - nothing wrong with letting him post.

If someone does want to offer constructive criticism then this is a good example

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 6 10:44:42 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 10:32:41 2011.

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You appear to be trying your damndest.

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by 3-9 on Fri May 6 11:23:23 2011, in response to Re: NJT Comet V 6078, posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 10:35:38 2011.

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Also check the picture quality/compression you're saving it under. Lower compression and/or higher quality is better.

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 11:33:31 2011, in response to Re: NJT Comet V 6078, posted by 3-9 on Fri May 6 11:23:23 2011.

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How does this look?


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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 11:33:31 2011, in response to Re: NJT Comet V 6078, posted by 3-9 on Fri May 6 11:23:23 2011.

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How does this look?


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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by ebtmikado on Fri May 6 11:36:44 2011, in response to Re: NJT Comet V 6078, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 6 06:07:21 2011.

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by ebtmikado on Fri May 6 11:36:44 2011, in response to Re: NJT Comet V 6078, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 6 06:07:21 2011.

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 11:39:17 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by BMTLines on Fri May 6 10:39:51 2011.

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And as you can see, I responded to that.

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by BMTLines on Fri May 6 11:44:35 2011, in response to Re: NJT Comet V 6078, posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 11:33:31 2011.

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Honestly focus is very soft

I don't think you should be discouraged. Do the best you can with the camera you have but recognize its limitations. Eventually when you can afford it upgrade to a better camera

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri May 6 11:52:55 2011, in response to Re: NJT Comet V 6078, posted by BMTLines on Fri May 6 11:44:35 2011.

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Looks more like he focused on the shelf beneath the train, rather than the train.

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri May 6 11:54:45 2011, in response to Re: NJT Comet V 6078, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri May 6 11:52:55 2011.

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And see if you can raise your ISO from 100...not too good for indoor shots.

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri May 6 11:56:19 2011, in response to NJT Comet V 6078, posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 00:37:34 2011.

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This photo is a big improvement over your cell phone shots. However it is a tad overexposed and partially blurry - - the clouds need a bit more definiation. With some practice on breaking into your new camera, your photos will improver over time.

One a scale of 1 to 10 - - a 7 express.

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri May 6 11:57:20 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 11:39:17 2011.

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You've responded, but you've been offered the same advice before, and you don't seem to be taking it.

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 6 12:15:58 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri May 6 10:36:51 2011.

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I'm certain that most of the photos that I post here are "sub-par" compared to Paul or Fred or Bob as well as a few others. While I suppose that they are not technically prefect, they are usually fairly well composed and almost always convey the spirit of what people want to discuss here. Now, I am not denigrating Fred or Paul or Bob or anyone else who goes that extra step but as has been pointed out here many many many times, this is a train board, not a photo board and as long as there is at least a modest amount of care taken in the presentation of the photo - none of us should be offering unrequested criticism based on photo quality. I certainly would rather see a photo of an 0-6-0 that is slightly under-exposed and off center, than a perfectly exposed, perfectly centered photo of a young girl, unaware that she is being photographed. Lets just keep in mind why most of us are here. Lets cut the bullshit over who's pictures suck and who's don't.

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri May 6 12:31:01 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 6 12:15:58 2011.

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It's one thing for the exposure to be off, or the subject not to be centered, but out-of-focus to the point where you can't make out the number boards, or makes your 0-6-0 look more like an 0-600-0?

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 6 12:41:21 2011, in response to NJT Comet V 6078, posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 00:37:34 2011.

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Newark Broad?

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 12:42:14 2011, in response to Re: NJT Comet V 6078, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 6 12:41:21 2011.

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Yep. Train 1001.

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 6 12:47:28 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri May 6 12:31:01 2011.

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You know what? I saw the photos, they were uninteresting because of the focus issue - I moved on. No one deserves a kick in the teeth for trying.

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 6 12:52:15 2011, in response to Re: NJT Comet V 6078, posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 12:42:14 2011.

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I am very familiar with that train. Used to be 201 until last year.

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Re: NJT Comet V 6078

Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 12:58:36 2011, in response to Re: NJT Comet V 6078, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 6 12:52:15 2011.

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Actually, I think it was 247 or 249 and 1029 combined.

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri May 6 13:24:10 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 6 12:47:28 2011.

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This is true. Problem is, he's been told what the issues are that he should work on...and he continues to be offended when we tell him there's no improvement.

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by BMTLines on Fri May 6 13:29:46 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri May 6 13:24:10 2011.

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He takes offense when one particular individual attacks and insults him rather than offer constructive criticism. The WAY things are said are just as important as what is said

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri May 6 13:43:49 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by BMTLines on Fri May 6 13:29:46 2011.

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Well, not completely. He's been attacking Hank for merely telling the truth, going on with the "lapdog" bit. We don't expect everyone to be perfect photographers, but since there are a lot of people here that have good photographs on a variety of levels, why not accept advice on how to improve the things instead of acting as if there is absolutely nothing wrong with the pictures?

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri May 6 14:59:27 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri May 6 13:43:49 2011.

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A response from me to this issue on BusChat.

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 6 15:52:32 2011, in response to Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 07:51:53 2011.

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Seems that a *LOT* of people want him here ... just look at all those replies! :(

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by BMTLines on Fri May 6 16:02:00 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 6 15:52:32 2011.

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Larry relinquished control of this board to The Terrible Testudine years ago :(

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 6 16:05:59 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by BMTLines on Fri May 6 16:02:00 2011.

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Doesn't mean you have to feed it ... I guess sanitation isn't enforcing the littering laws anymore. :(

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by BMTLines on Fri May 6 16:08:42 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 6 16:05:59 2011.

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"not feeding the troll" is a cliche' that does not work in real life. That only emboldens it to intensify its attacks.



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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 6 16:08:52 2011, in response to Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by NJT Morris Rider on Fri May 6 07:51:53 2011.

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Just remember that no one is totally useless. They can always be held up as a bad example.

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 6 17:11:00 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by BMTLines on Fri May 6 16:08:42 2011.

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If nobody ever reads them, WHAT attack?

I haven't seen him say boo about me in years now. :)

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Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack

Posted by BMTLines on Fri May 6 17:20:11 2011, in response to Re: Terrapin Station makes unwarranted attack, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 6 17:11:00 2011.

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Unfortunately people do read them and many believe his character assassinations. One concession I made to the board was that I decided to fight back with the videos instead of the "ever escalating cuss-war" approach I took with Ron.


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Talking Tom 1 (Re: NJT Comet V 6078)

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri May 6 18:00:07 2011, in response to Re: NJT Comet V 6078, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 6 06:07:21 2011.

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