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2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Nov 18 10:40:34 2010

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Alright, its almost Thanksgiving so I wanted to release the preliminary information on the 2010 SEPTA Mid-Winter Trip. Yes this is the 10th annual trip and as such we will be breaking new ground with two new routes.

The date that I am going with so far will be the Monday after Christmas (December 27th) which has the added benefit of allowing an post-trip evening programme consiting of the the West Jersey Chapter NRHS's annual movie night.

Here is the trip as I envision it so far.


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Thanks to Google Maps I know the trip will be about 90 miles in length and its focus will be the surface city division trolley lines. I know people are going to whine and moan about the Silverliner IIs, but I have some very good reasons for this year's choice of theme.

1) Last year we did a VERY RRD centric trip. Even though we didn't see many (amy?) S-IIs it was still an RRD trip and the mission of the M-WT is to "mix it up". Also even if I added more RRD to this trip there is no guarantee we'd actually see any like last year.

2) The Silverliner IIs will have several more dedicated charter trip. After participating in the last one I determined that most people will or will have already had ample opportunity to ride the S-IIs in a more proper setting.

3) The Silverliner V's should be running with increasing frequency for the foreseeable future. There is no need to design a trip around new equipment. We'll have plenty of occasion to binge on the S-Vs on future M-WTs.

Ok, that being said here is the Route.

R1 to Eastwick
Walk to the Rt 36 Eastwick Loop
Rt 36th to 30th St
Transfer to Rt 10
Rt 10 to Giarad Ave
Transfer to Rt 15
Rt 15 to Broad Street
BSS Express to Fern Rock
BSS Express or Broad Ridge Train to Downtown
Lunch Downtown
MFL to Frankford Terminal
Rt 66 to a point on Frankford Ave *NEW ROUTE*
Walk to Torresdale R7 stop
R7 to 30th St
Extended Photo Session at 30th St
NJT ACL Train to Lindenwold *NEW ROUTE*
PATCO to Center City and back (or whervere one wishes to get off)

I haven't bothered with the schedules yet, but the trip will begin with the an outbound R1 airport that departs between 9 and 9:30 AM. Most everything else should be headway until the inbound R7. That part of the trip is subject to change if we are unable to reliably catch an ACL train before it gets dark. Lunch might be on the later side, close to 1pm.

I am being a bit ambitious with the walking transfers here. The Eastwick to Eastwick Loop talk is about .7 miles and has been done before in a previous M-WT. The second walking transfer between the Rt 66 and R7 at Torresdale is only about 2500 feet so I think that should be manageable. You'll notice this is different on the map because I just realized how close the Torresdale stop was.

Anyway feel free to give me your thoughts and changes can be made in necessary.

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 18 10:48:51 2010, in response to 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Nov 18 10:40:34 2010.

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The trip looks good.
Sorry, I can't join you. My kids will be in town, so I stay with them at home.
Also, with my leaky hart valve and bad knees, it's too much walking.

Have a great day!

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Nov 18 10:50:01 2010, in response to Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 18 10:48:51 2010.

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You know when I started these trips you didn't seem to have a problem with them :-P

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 18 11:06:35 2010, in response to Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Nov 18 10:50:01 2010.

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My heart valve has been leaking since 2004, during 2004, 05 ,06 & 07 it didn't bother me,since 2008 it has.
The knees are the last three years.

Be glad you are young, believe me.

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Nov 18 11:18:35 2010, in response to Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 18 11:06:35 2010.

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Well feel free to show up for any part of the trip.

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by arnine on Thu Nov 18 11:59:14 2010, in response to 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Nov 18 10:40:34 2010.

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Cool sounding trip look forward to the pics :) I will be out of the US 12/14 - 1/15 so obviously will not make it. Have fun :)

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 18 12:17:46 2010, in response to Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Nov 18 11:18:35 2010.

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Thanks,Mike.

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Nov 18 13:43:20 2010, in response to 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by Jersey Mike on Thu Nov 18 10:40:34 2010.

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On your way out to Frankford, why not take a stop at Girard to check out the new trolley trackage to Delaware Ave? I dunno what the status will be at that time, but it'd be cool to see new tracks being installed.

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 18 13:49:59 2010, in response to Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Nov 18 13:43:20 2010.

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Last week I was up there, ad it's cool to see how they do it from the ground up. We'll be riding the 15 down Frankford Ave., hopefully, by next spring. That's if they don't kick us off at Front & Girard.

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 18 16:31:29 2010, in response to Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 18 13:49:59 2010.

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Photo from 11/12/10, It's possible this section is more complete as of today, I have no one to ask.

Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 18 16:39:28 2010, in response to Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 18 16:31:29 2010.

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Yes, that's me in the left shadow, with the camera, and Harry is in the right.

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by arnine on Thu Nov 18 17:54:10 2010, in response to Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 18 16:39:28 2010.

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The two of you look good :) Sorry Chuck I couldn't help myself.

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 18 20:32:10 2010, in response to Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 18 16:39:28 2010.

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Thanks! Nice to have friends that are nice to me.Harry is a great guy.
We're going to ride the 15 before they shut it down to Westmoreland for two years. We'll ride with our favorite lady operator, she's at Front & Girard EB, at 10:59 AM.

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by arnine on Thu Nov 18 21:53:51 2010, in response to Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 18 20:32:10 2010.

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Cool :)

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by EastSideRider on Thu Nov 18 22:54:23 2010, in response to Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 18 11:06:35 2010.

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:( Feel better! We'll miss you!

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by Joe Saitta on Fri Nov 19 00:12:52 2010, in response to Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 18 11:06:35 2010.

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Consider having the heart valve repaired. I did this past May. Fortunately mine was only the installation of a clip, and I feel so much better.

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 19 01:38:48 2010, in response to Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 18 10:48:51 2010.

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Maybe you could stop by for part of it, Chuck.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Nov 19 02:18:39 2010, in response to Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 18 16:31:29 2010.

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Quite cool! I have a few more as well from 11/13/10. It's basically the same thing, heh:







And one for fun:





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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Nov 19 07:00:15 2010, in response to Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by Joe Saitta on Fri Nov 19 00:12:52 2010.

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Thanks, Joe.

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Nov 19 07:00:57 2010, in response to Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Nov 19 02:18:39 2010.

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Excellent!

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by arnine on Fri Nov 19 08:45:22 2010, in response to Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Nov 19 02:18:39 2010.

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Cool stuff :)

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Nov 19 09:41:50 2010, in response to Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Nov 19 07:00:57 2010.

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Thanks Chuck! :)

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Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Nov 19 09:42:10 2010, in response to Re: 2010 SEPTA MID-WINTER TRIP - Preliminary Info, posted by arnine on Fri Nov 19 08:45:22 2010.

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Thanks arnine! :)

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