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Posted by arnine on Fri Sep 3 11:14:48 2010, in response to Re: [ARTICLE] Bob Diamond Leaving Brooklyn, posted by BMTLines on Fri Sep 3 09:30:36 2010. Regardless of whether or not the formula is good or bad, the other 3 companies did not have the issues Cooper companies had. Actually, as pointed out one of Cooper's companies (Command) was fairly decent, so if he wasn't getting enough money, how was that possible?? Again, it wasn't really a $$ issue it was a management issue.The city gave the MTA the additional subsidies because for them to run the companies required more $$ as now depots had to be rented, the employees will have to be paid accordingly to MTA rates (the drivers now get MTA bennies which are better than Cooper was giving them), drivers also had to be trained to MTA standards as Cooper companies drivers were no where professional. For example, I once took a Q60 out of 2nd Ave & 60th Street at 12:15am and I was the only PAX when we got to Queens Plaza the diver pulled over to a subway station and tried to kick me off the bus as he did not want to take 1 pax. I refused and he called the cops who forced him to finish his route. That would not fly under MTA. Also, the MTA also had to bring the fleets up to decent shape as many buses were destroyed by Cooper's lack of maintenance. They also immediately got new buses. The fare was not granted to Cooper companies b/c they were getting a sufficient amount of $$. I remember one thing mentioned at the pre-MTA takeover meeting the rep. from DOT said LL, NYBS and Queens Surface were not having issues and why should Cooper Companies, and she was right as they were getting the same fares, and subsidies. Again, there was no answer to that question (you even haven't really addressed it) b/c it wasn't a $$ issue but rather a mgmt issue. The Cooper companies years before had made a case to the DOT asking for more subsidy $$ so they could provide better service. Well, DOT granted it but the service did not improve on the Cooper companies 1 damn bit, but service did improve on the other 3 companies, which had good service to begin with. The MTA was granted their fare increase to keep things even with regular MTA fares and buses. It also allowed for a lower increase in the subsidy needed. You can stand by your opinions and I will too as right now though there are more facts to back my opinions up. If the other 3 companies had bad maintenance and bad service, I would agree totally that the companies were treated unfairly. But the fact of the matter it was only the majority of the Cooper Companies that had issues, so it was with them not the city, MTA, and others it landed sqaurely on them. We all know you do not like the MTA, but TBH I share the same feelings, if you look at my past posts in regards to the MTA you will see I almost always side against the MTA as they usually are wrong. But credit is due when it is due and they do deserve some credit here. Service on the former Cooper Companies lines have improved quickly and is now great, something that cannot be denied. Maybe the deal wasn't a good deal, but the city had to relieve the suffering of the pax on the former Cooper companies. The deal wasn't perfect for all, but they had to do something for the majority who were suffering and where was the suffering? With those riding Cooper companies lines. Sorry that isn't an opinion but a fact that was recognized in surveys, their own ridership data and by sheer observation. |
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