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Re: Have You Been To Philadelphia?

Posted by EastSideRider on Tue Aug 17 03:57:19 2010, in response to Have You Been To Philadelphia?, posted by Union Turnpike on Tue Aug 17 02:17:26 2010.

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As a South Jersey resident, with friends and others I know in Philly, I can answer this!


* Is West Philadelphia safe (especially Market Street between 40th and 69th Streets)?

Yes, but sadly due to the state of Philly in some/most parts and the EL reconstruction project, Market Street is a bit rundown and abandoned under the El part, between 45 and 63 St. 52 Street is definitely alive though, as its West Philly's main street. 56 isn't bad either.

* Are Front Street and Kensington Avenue safe around MFL stations?

IMO, if it isn't around Erie/Torresdale, Allegheny, or Girard, it may be risky. North Philly is the dodgy part, especially at night and around Huntingdon and Somerset Stations....

* How do you access Millbourne (MFL) from Market Street?

Its a little alleyway (not a dangerous one, as this stop is lightly used) from the north side of Market Street. Go in the direction of the El.

* Can you transfer between the MFL and Broad Street Subway and between the MFL and the Ridge Avenue Connector?

The MFL and Broad Street Line connect at City Hall (BSL)-15 Street (MFL) for free and are connected (just follow the crowd really). The MFL and Broad-Ridge Spur at 8 St DON'T have a free connection. When you exit out the turnstiles for the El or Ridge Spur at 8th, your out of the paid area. PATCO to NJ is at 8th also.

FYI, you can walk underground (outside the paid area) through Gallery Mall from 8 St Station, west down Market (Passing 11 St, 13 St, and Market East Stations) to City Hall, and from City Hall you can go either south down Broad Street to Walnut-Locust Station on the BSL/PATCO or Northwest into the Suburban Station Plaza. Here's a good map: Underground Map

* Which trolley lines are the best in terms of scenery?

I'd ride the 15 (Girard Avenue Trolley, which is popular among railfans for its PCCs) before its rerouted on its western part along Delaware Avenue/I-95. Also, the Route 101 Trolley is scenic, wooded areas, waterfalls, bridges, the whole nine. Plus, Media is a nice place to check out :-) I'd recommend the 102 Trolley also, but its branch is under construction now (gonna open back up soon I heard though). The Norristown High Speed Line is good too, though not a trolley.

You can get the 15 at Girard Av from all Broad Street trains (Local, Express, and Ridge), the MFL at Girard, and the Route 10 Subway-Surface trolley at Girard and Lancaster Avenues in West Philly. The Norristown HSL, and Routes 101/102 are at 69 St in Delaware County on the MFL (Millbourne and 69 are actually outside Philadelphia County).

Another tip, before you leave, check the SEPTA website for service details and disruptions, as SEPTA isn't as reminding of service changes and maps as NYC!

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