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Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 8 14:35:50 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 13:33:58 2010.

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No, that is a fact. Since you rarely ride the system by your own admission, you don't realise that the ridership does not like to divert from their established way of getting to/from work.

I rode the line for 25 years. I know exactly what it means to be "set in my ways" on my way to get to work.

This thru service all you guys are so in love with gives the riders ZERO connections to the east side, where most are traveling to.

That's incorrect. Broadway-Lafayette-Bleecker is coming. I know very well, I traveled the east side for half of that time, using Union Square from the L from the M train. I am quite familiar with these lines.

Plus the L has more frequent service than the M.

Yes, but that can always be increased as need arises, and a short two seat ride will beat a three seat ride, which is what the L now entails. I already explained in another thread WHY they use the three seat L option instead of the two seat Nassau/transfer option, but this new line wouldn't be one of the old Nassau transfers.

The L's ridership is heaviest north of Myrtle Wycoff, those already riding aren't giving up their seats to change for the M/V upstairs. Other L riders will not backtrack to wait on a cold/snowy/rainy/windy elevated platform.

No, the heaviest ridership is south of Myrtle Wyckoff (meaning the side closer to the city). And WHO is saying ANY of those people would be transfering to the M/V? It's irrelevant to them, but many of the M transplant WOULD forgo getting off their M trains and staying on the new M/V. This isn't about getting L people off the L, it's about keeping M people on the M at Myrtle Wyckoff and OFF the L.

It just kills you guys that this stretch of trackage isn't used for regular service.


NO, as a user of the MJ and L lines for 25 years, and my father for 50 years aside that, I know very well the needs of this line. Unless we were headed for "Chinatown" or the Financial district, the M never went where we wanted it to go. Even if we took the M, 9 our of 10 times we head back uptown again. I also know many people to this day in that area. This is not about "using an unused piece of track", it's about providing a needed and desired service. It's not like I really care what routings are used or if they are left unused. I full support the G not leaving Court Square, and that is a similar situation. But for some reason, some people against an idea "railfans" put forth, always seem to think anyone that disagrees with them is some sort of "foamer". I am one of the least "foamer" types here....






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