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Re: Future expansion wish list?

Posted by trainsarefun on Sat Dec 26 12:23:40 2009, in response to Re: Future expansion wish list?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Dec 25 21:16:29 2009.

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It depends on determining who can attract the pandering of local politicians, Staten Island residents with high voter turnout, or the sometimes despised transit workers.

I agree. It's a volatile brew, though, and not something on which to pin expansion plans. Or it's certainly premature, in my view.

While you do note the complications of the DBOM, the contract for its operation will end at some point (15 year contract, IIRC)

I think that's right. There is an option to renew though.

and it remains to be seen if New Jersey Transit will self-operate upon the end of such contracts, or if O&M will be handed off again to a contractor. Regardless, there's always to potential for the slightly inefficient

It's not a certainty, but NJT feels that it has received a bargain on O&M, so I'd predict the contractor handoff again.

Regardless, there's always to potential for the slightly inefficient, but operationally feasible method of having NYCTA crews operate the MTA paid for branch, and NJT operations for the service north of whatever transition point is selected. Of course, given TWU, there's probably some other means of bribing them in exchange for the ability of NJT's crews to operate.

Maybe. I'm not sure that MTA SIRTOA employees are TWU local 100; they may be, I just don't know. (Maybe someone like Hank Eisenstein would?). The less unions to deal with, the better for your proposal, since while a union/non-union debate stands maybe some chance of resolution, a many-way turf war between several unions is more of a conflagration.

Express bus riders seem to be in a demographic that's politically "noisy", and I don't see politicians interfering with the buses to sustain the votes of that demographic.

You are correct. Although their noisiness is most because the "great silent majority" doesn't know about the sweetheart subsidy.

Admittedly, there's a part of me that wonders about the effects on local real estate if the express network is killed off.

Considering the ridership number, not too much, I would think. And you also have to factor in that it's the removal of a subsidy that's doing the killing, not the imposition of a tariff.

Given your emphasis on efficiency, I don't see you planning a multi-billion dollar line to pander to such groups...

Certainly not. Local buses, SIR, ferry, maybe this HBLR thing you talk about although I'm skeptical about its prospects. If and when SI radically changes, the issue should then be revisited.






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