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Posted by trainsarefun on Fri Dec 25 22:07:37 2009, in response to Re: Future expansion wish list?, posted by NIMBYkiller on Fri Dec 25 21:46:46 2009. What is the alternate routing for freight, onto themain line via the Montauk cutoff?Correct. A replacement for Yard A is being built as part of the ESA work. Even with NYP and ESA, you're not going to have enough capacity for full use of the future infrastructure of the LIRR in Nassau/Suffolk counties (3rd track mainline, 2nd track Ronkonkoma, etc). I've used LIRR's own figures projecting 74 peak tph in the system. Now that is a pipe dream that assumes doubling peak service on some branches! But I'm saying use even those numbers and there is trackage far in excess that could be much better used by NYCT. LIRR needs the Brooklyn line and it is definitely not running empty or anywhere near that. And don't post 2tph as if that's all the line runs all day. Both AM and PM rush hour you have trains coming as often as every 5 minutes, and the longest time between trains I can find is 25 minutes, and that's only once. LIRR reports 10 tph in the AM peak. That's every 5 minutes westbound at height of the AM rush. The trains are not at capacity, not by a long shot, and they are shorter trains, generally, 510' to 680'. The 2 tph is the off peak frequency, and those are pretty empty trains. The line is VERY important for the LIRR and losing it is not a possibility. Please get an idea of what you are talking about before posting lies Where are the lies???? Face facts, facts taken from LIRR's own publications. LIRR is a bloated organization that moves thousands of people a month. NYCT moves millions. One can no more show that LIRR is more efficient than NYCT than he can show that 0=1. LIRR is a commuter rail operation not suited to short intervals of service without hemorrhaging even more money than it does on most trains. LIRR should stick to what it's designed for - commuter rail - and leave the severely underutilized parts of its system in NYC limits to rapid transit operation that would produce massive time-money savings for millions of people while generally improving service even for LIRR riders. |
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