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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 25 13:34:35 2009, in response to Re: Reviving the Brown R, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Nov 25 06:00:59 2009. Two reasons why that will never happen. First was the N/R switch 6 months before the brown R was eliminated. Before then, both Broadway and Nassau St. R service could share fleets, they both used 8 car trains of 60 footers. Today, that would be impossible, so all brown R trains would have to come from the north (no yard in Bay Ridge). The second reason is that the whole purpose of the brown R was eliminated when the M was moved off the Brighton line in 1986. While it ran as the Brighton local, West End and Sea Beach riders could not make the transfer for Nassau St. trains at Dekalb during rush hours, so the diamond R (originally RJ) was created to provide this at Pacific St (the x-fer here to the Brighton line did not open until 10 years later). Once the M was sent over to the West End (originally as an express between Pacific and 36th), that need evaporated. Add all that congestion which was created at Pacific, where half empty M's and R's would hold up crowded B, N and R trains merging north of Pacific and it's a wonder that it took them so long to eliminate it in the first place. It should have gone at the same moment the N/R swapped terminals (and when the only map to ever show the diamond R as brown was issued). That the M now runs as a local on 4th Ave only makes the diamond R even MORE redundant.The final months of the diamond R demonstrated a service pattern which never appeared on maps. Most Manhattan-bound service in the AM until about 8 AM out of Metropolitan Ave consisted of R trains which ran to 95th St, so they could be turned and run back. There were almost no southbound M trains to Bay Parkway leaving Metropolitan in the AM, trains for the northbound service from Bay Parkway came from Coney Island yard and often ran to ENY, though they were often signed up as terminating at Chambers St. So you had the absurd pattern of M trains running to Eastern Parkway, and R trains running to Metropolitan Ave, and not a single hint of this service ever appeared on maps of the time. |
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