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Re: 2nd Ave Subway Setback

Posted by WillD on Thu Jul 23 00:56:23 2009, in response to Re: 2nd Ave Subway Setback, posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Jul 22 17:31:57 2009.

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And why not? A PATH car should hold around 150 passengers with a decent amount of space for each passenger. At the 25 TPH PATH currently barely manages to squeeze through the WTC station (and as a regular commuter on their also-ran system I have certainly experienced my share of lengthy delays), with eight car trains that works out to 30000 passengers per hour. Since they run trains between 7 and 8 cars long with a train length from 357 to 408 feet. Thus a replacement LRT would be composed of around 4 90 foot long cars, although 100 foot long LRTs may be better. The 90 foot S70 Avantos used by Charlotte and San Diego have a capacity of 230 passengers per car, and so would be capable of transporting 27600 passengers per hour with 30 trains per hour operated through the tunnel. In fact with a change to the seating to accomodate a greater number of standees and reduce the number of blind end cabs, as on the PATH cars, they likely could top 250 people per car and thus equal the capacity of the existing PATH system. The 6 foot longer Avantos used in Houston (and measuring 96 feet between the couplers) accomodate 240 passengers, and thus would likely accomodate more than a PATH train with the standee capacity improvements I mentioned in the prior sentence.

I don't quite get the obsession around here with the particular variant of mass transit used by a given operation. Ultimately all we're talking about is a piece of floor with some seats on it which gets people from point A to point B. What does it matter if it has a specific title or set of characteristics? The difference between heavy and light rail is slim at best, and the operational flexibility of an LRT in providing through service from NYC to Tenafly, Bayonne, West Side Ave, and Grove Street makes the case for LRTs on PATH a fairly strong one, especially in light of their capacity neutrality.

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