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Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed

Posted by trainsarefun on Tue Jul 7 12:13:52 2009, in response to Re: LIC Yuppies get steamed, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 7 11:41:53 2009.

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Who cares what court it gets sent to? They're all packed with judges who legislate from the bench. It doesn't matter, they'll find plenty of judges who will order it closed for this or that.

This is just simple reasoning for people who are confused - or who want to be confused - about the difference between political judgments and legal ones. I have cited actual legal reasoning. You have cited navel gazing.

Let's put this to the test:

Some activist group will do a study about the asthma rates with children living in LIC. That's usually enough. It's the tactic used to target bus depots in Harlem, despite no clear evidence that bus fumes cause asthma.

What's the name of the judicial decision that ordered bus depots in Harlem closed?

When politicians and bureaucrats make a policy decision, that is not something ordered by a court, e.g., no court ordered MTA to use its expensive kind of diesel fuel. Politicians in Harlem don't have the same favored policy positions as the ones for LIRR's 'third track' project. But lo, there's opposition there too.

As for what the people and politicians in Harlem do, the politicians and civic groups in my area would do the same if MTA ever wanted to site a train yard, bus depot, or anything like that nearby. You can definitely bet and win handsomely that the people and politicians in some very "rightward leaning" area would do the same.

In the 1970s, NYC wanted to build low income housing projects in Forest Hills and Baisley Park, both then middle income areas in Queens; the latter's population was mostly Black. Both communities opposed NYC's plans.

Why? Simple. Anything that lowered their property values was bad. The stuff about race, etc., that played such a prominent role, was only dressing. Same thing goes for LIRR's yard on Borden Av. It lowers residents' property values; so they reason that it must go. They don't care if your theory to get rid of it is left wing, right wing, communist, anarchist, libertarian, whatever. They just want their property values to increase.

So I think that you are ultimately just missing the big picture about what these resident want because you are more interested in seeing some vast left-wing conspiracy at work.

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