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Re: Hunters Point vs LIRR Round 1

Posted by Michael549 on Fri May 22 11:27:08 2009, in response to Re: Hunters Point vs LIRR Round 1, posted by Doctor B on Fri May 22 07:17:54 2009.

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From an urban planning perspective there are a number of issues:

1) There is clash of competing land uses - industrial usage, and residential usage - plus the "grandfather issue" versus economic development.

2) There is the issue of converting an area that was once industrial into a residential area, while there is substantial industrial usage still underway.

3) There is the issue of attracting developers and residents to such an area: local policy, zoning, tax incentives, etc. The neighborhood has to have at least one or more attratcive features for the new residents, I suppose that easy transportation to Manhattan was the lure.

4) There is the clear, "Not In My Backyard" ploys, and the history of those tactics.

5) There is the issue of mitigation both for the new residnets, and for the LIRR --- with the most important being who pays for the costs of that mitigation. In this case, some technology exists but that is extremely costly. It also seems that there are few buffers that can be placed between the residents and the train yard.

6) There is also the issue - benefits for one area might turn out to be disruptive for others, who happen yet not to be a part of the discussion. The train engines have to be stored somewhere in a way that enhances the operations of the LIRR, storing them somewhere else may hamper those operations or cause problems for residents in another location.

7) There is, of course, the issue of political power - who has it, and who does not, and the kinds of appeals made. Note the references to noise and air pollution - generally considered bad, and the idea "that we powerless simple folk" has tried to reason with the "big bad LIRR".

The LIRR is a state agency that responds to the concerns of the governor, the MTA board, various Long Island politicians, etc. Generally speaking the LIRR does not have to respond to the wishes of a local community board - the usual place for residents to note concerns - unless a great deal of outside pressure is used.

8) In addition, there is the issue that the LIRR will use - that is basically "we have always operated this way - and we are not changing." Any change in our operations will affect LIRR riders.

Just some thoughts in looking at this issue from another angle:
Mike



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