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Posted by Eric B on Mon Apr 25 20:57:31 2005, in response to Re: Photos of Stillwell Terminal's new facade, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 25 20:12:25 2005. Once again; I'm waiting for 72/2nd for that. The V should go to Church Av.A new set of "build" ideas I'm thinking up now; is to connect 2nd Av. to Court St. (move the museum); connect that lime to the southbound ramp from Jay St. to Bergen upper level (with a diamond crossover so the lower level (exp.) could be accessed as well), and then the V would move completely over to 2nd. Av., but keeping both terminals (Continental, Church). This would free up space on th Av. for full time full fledged K service to 72/2. Nights; perhaps the J could run there instead, (and turn Nassau into a shuttle), since there are more riders coming from the J than from the M. It would still help. We need some service up there all times to cut travel time and eliminate having to wait for the F, often to connect from another line. The Full length 2nd Av. line could then go to Euclid, and a new Cranberry-Dekalb connection (where the Rutgers connection would have been) would allow the C access to the BMT South. Another new idea I never thought of before. The Franklin-Fulton connection was considered and rejected because of disruption to the neighborhood (would have to cut through blocks). But now that they are seriously talking about Airtrain conversion on Atlantic Av.; if they are going to do that type of work there; then they could at the same time build a connection from there to the franklin. So in the space where the two tracks from Botanic Gardens merge into one and start to go up the ramp; a new tunnel would branch off, with a new underground Park Place station. The above station and line to Fulton would be retained as a single station shuttle for a shortcut for those heading east on the Fulton line. It could perhaps then use some sort of single car LRV type vehicle. The new subway would simply continue under the existing right of way, until it turns off onto Atlantic.The corner of Franklin and Atlantic is some indistrial type place that seems to be owned by the MTA anywa (I see MTA trucks there). That is all that would be disturbed by construction. Then; it would run next to the Airtrain line, and then we could perhaps connect it at the old Ashland Pl. bellmouths (built for the Fulton El. Now; the Brighton would have express-local service extended down to Atlantic, (no more need to cross over there) with the express taking a more direct route (like Northern Blvd. or the unused exp. between 7th Av. and Church); even though the exress would have its own station at 7th Av. not served by the local. The local coming out of Ashland Pl. would then feed directly into the current Dekalb-bound track; while the express, to avoid merging there; would have to be fed straight into the tunnel bound track. But then we could build a crossover to the Bypass right near Dekalb; where the Brighton-tunnel and bypass tracks are level and adjacent (curtain wall would have to be removed) If the Q moved to the new local track; it would still be the full time local; but this would now justify putting the D back on the Brighton as the express. When express service is not needed; it wuld just erminate at Prospect Park in the middle (like the J shuttles have been doing; but now there would be no other services on those tracks). I would then have the C run with the Q local as a rush hour special; and then it would resume as the Concourse local. (I would now share cars and shop with the D, instead of the A). The B would become WashHts-West End once again, of course). You could also make the M into a rush hour special express (like pre-Chrystie), and the Brighton would be set up just like Queen Blvd. used to be; with two expresses and two locals; one Manh. trunk line each, with no crossing. They might not need that much service though, but this would not "fix" the entire system back to the original IND and Chrystie patterns; but add a lot too, and maintain the modern simplicity (Brighton exp. is always exp when it runs; etc). I always envied the Queen Blvd. system, and wished we had 8th Av. service; the one "missing" trunk line from the Brighton. I wish whoever makes those MTA fantasy maps would do this one! (this plan would also go along with my old ideas of extending the N up 2nd Av. as well, and it becoming the full time Bway express; and the Q taking over Astoria. It could then be local weekends and tunnel nights; since the Brighton would still have access to the D to cross the bridge at all times). |
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