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Re: No excuses please

Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Mar 23 10:02:05 2009, in response to Re: No excuses please, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 23 02:12:18 2009.

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You're right in that in the "old" (1950s) South Ferry terminal, one had to go outside to get to the IRT Station. As part of the reconstruction of the ferry terminal earlier this decade, pax transferring between the #1 and the ferry did not have to go outside- the new terminal's "lobby" was confirgured in such a way that you could go right to (and from) the IRT fare control area under one roof. While this was not an exigent matter to deal with, it was sort of a plum for the terminal reconstructions.

But the new subway station wasn't taken into account in this planning. While I don't know for sure, I'd imagine the new ferry building was planned/designed (I know it was TALKED about) long before 9-11. During the new terminal's construction, there was a lot of back and forth about a new subway station, and the Second Avenue Subway. Ultimately, the Staten Island politicians agreed to support the SAS in exchange for Shelly Silver's support of a new IRT station at SF.

I do remember that when the new ferry building was opened, the SI Advance touted the new indoor connection to the IRT, but did mention that in just a few years, it would be rendered obsolete by the new station- and that's exactly what happened. Had the loop simply been extended, this issue wouldn't exist, but for whatever (probably good) reason, that didn't happen- a whole new station got built- and undid the improvement to the old one. This may have qualified for the "short-lived-improvements" thread we had about 2 weeks ago.

But in any event, the main entrance/exit from South Ferry IRT/Whitehall St is right outside, and I do mean RIGHT outside, the ferry terminal building, and has a canopy to boot. So there's no serious basis for a complaint, IMO. Also, the bus ramps and canopies to the ferry building remain uncomplete, and I'm sure some sort of covered walkway could easily be built. As a final note, it does look like the front of the new ferry buiding will wind up a little different from what was planned before the new IRT station was authorized.

Finally, we haven't had any serious precipitation since the new IRT station opened. I wonder how well the new main entryway will deflect rain & snow.

Hope this helps!

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