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Re: Archer Avenue at 20

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Dec 14 15:38:17 2008, in response to Re: Archer Avenue at 20, posted by aem7ac on Sat Dec 13 13:16:07 2008.

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Archer Avenue to 168 St. (and beyond)

As a former SE Queens resident, I never understood the theory on adding at 168th Street stop back. Ron usually gives the theory that it would boost the profile of the Jamaica shopping district, but adding the station doesn't change much, IMHO, because outside of the Gap/Old Navy store, there are no other large national chains at the mall, and they're accessible at other malls like Queens Centre or Green Acres. If anything, the Jamaica CBD should be pushed westward to allow for easy access from the Jamaica LIRR station.

Conversion of LIRR Lower Montauk Branch to the Penn Station/Grand Central trunk line, conversion of the LIRR Main Line to subway.

Seriously, why? I've never understood the theory behind turning a line parallel to the Queens Railway into an express subway.

G Train to Broadway-Myrtle

Streetcar. If you're bored, we can always build a Stadtbahn. :)

4 train via Utica Avenue to the Flatlands

Somehow, I'd rather see a variant of one of the IND Second System plans...

7 train to Port Washington

Given the isolated nature of the Port Washington Line, I've considered an idea that it feeds into 63rd Street and comes out somewhere on else on the Southern Division or turns at 2nd Ave or Church. Sadly, the FRA won't let us have subway trains and commuter trains mixing together despite the fact that the ASC system essentially ensures that the nasty high-speed collisions won't occur. Running subway levels of service into Port Washington or even Great Neck seems semi-absurd, IMHO, but I feel it's highly absurd to build a subway parallel to the LIRR in that area.

If anything, the 7 should have a "mini-extension" from Willets Point to 20th Avenue. Of course, this theoretically in the future could be extended onto a new cable stayed Whitestone Bridge in the future or sent deep bore in a straight line to 14th Road & the Cross Island Parkway station.

J train to Valley Stream, via Merrick Blvd

One needs to ask if the riders will all abandon the J at mass for the E at Jamaica Centre, and if the LIRR will dump their local stops due to the cut in patronage...

I am sure there are others in Queens that others can think of.

Eastern New Queens Trunk to serve Queens College, Fresh Meadows, Oakdale Gardens, and Long Island Jewish and a Western New Queens Trunk serving Maspeth. As for what to do with it in Manhattan, one could run towards Greenpoint and aim for a 23rd Street Line, or aim southward for Williamsburg to aim for Houston Street and the IND Sixth Avenue Line, or swing northward towards Sunnyside and 63rd Street.

Of course, I should draw a map one of these days...

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