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Re: London news

Posted by Rail Blue on Thu Mar 17 09:28:41 2005, in response to Re: London news, posted by David Fairthorne on Tue Mar 15 15:23:07 2005.

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I certainly agree with your end points (Raynes Park and Lewisham), and I like your choice of outer branches, but I'm not so sure about your tunnel alignment because I think it follows the District line too closely and doesn't serve the West End very well.

Of course a more northerly route could be followed through the West End. I only picked a more Southerly one because:
- it's less congested under Fleet Street
- it would give SE commuters direct access to Cannon St and Charing X still, whilst SW commuters would end up just across the Hungerford Bridge from where they used to.

Also I would prefer fewer stations, to reduce construction costs (and travel times).

The only new underground stations would be:
1) Parson's Green (new platforms, leaving existing ones for terminating Districts)
2) Chelsea West (interchange with the WLL)
3) Chelsea (an important location)
4) Sloane Sq (interchange with the District/Circle - this needs to be an easier interchange than Victoria - maybe cross-platform)
5) Victoria (interchange principally with the Victoria Line)
6) Charing X (although the Jubilee Line platforms could be used with new tunnels outside the station)
7) Aldwych (although there's a convenient headhouse)
8) Ludgate Circus (interchange with City TL)
9) Cannon St - Monument (for Bank)
10) Fenchurch St - Aldgate (for the LTS and the Met - also within walking distance of Liverpool St)
11) Isle of Dogs (obvious)
12) Deptford / Greenwich (interchnage with the SE Greenwich Line)
13) Lewisham (new platforms (unless there's a clever way of getting up onto platforms 3 and 4 which I haven't thought of))

Using the Wimbledon branch of the District line could reduce the tunnel length, but I am not sure what would become of the remainder of that branch; and I don't think the new line should share tracks with the District line.

It would be cut back to Parson's Green. The service would mainly be to Edgware Rd, allowing Districts from Tower Hill to Rayner's Lane / Uxbridge, thus sending all Piccs to Heathrow.

Between Raynes Park and Lewisham I suggest stopping only at Wimbledon, Clapham Junction, Victoria, Piccadilly Circus, Tottenham Court Road, Farringdon, Liverpool Street/Moorgate and Canary Wharf. That gives you the needed capacity to some of the busiest places, and everywhere else can be reached by other means.

I can see the advantage in a limited stop alignment, but that wouldn't serve the King's Road. Also, a King's Road alignment is more direct to Victoria etc. Nothing demonstrates this better than comparing journey times on a King's Road alignment with those of an existing Victoria to Epsom stopper:

00 Victoria
02 Sloane Sq
04 Chelsea
06 Chelsea West
08
Parson's Green
10 Putney Bridge
12 East Putney
15 Southfields
17 Wimbledon Park
20 Wimbledon
23 Raynes Park
26 Motspur Park
28 Worcester Park
30 Stoneleigh
33 Ewell West
36 Epsom

00 Victoria
03 Battersea Park
06 Clapham Junction
09 Wandsworth Common
11 Balham
19 Mitcham Junction
23 Hackbridge
25 Carshalton
29 Sutton
32 Cheam
35 Ewell East
38 Epsom

Okay, it wouldn't go to Clapham Junction, but it would be cross-platform at Raynes Park and Epsom onto trains which do go there.

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