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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 3 14:27:55 2008, in response to Re: Diagrams Re: Air Train question, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 3 14:12:37 2008. Yes it is. It is free, it's on the property, and no one pays for it.No, the circulator is free. There are two paid branches however, one from Jamaica, and one from Howard Beach. The fee is waived for parking lot people. No it's not. I've been clear on it all along. There is no precedent for an airport charging an access fee to get onto its property. Precedent is irrelevant, and except for a 10 year reprieve when there was no premium services at Howard Beach, access to use various shuttles/transport from Howard Beach was provided for a fee ($2 in noninflated 1970's dollars for non JFK Express people. Back then, no fence was necessary, as fare evaders were handled by having a "JFK Express" slip which allowed them to access the shuttle bus for free while anyone that didn't have that had to pat $2. When there was no premium services there for the 1990's, there was no fee charged, when the MTA dropped the JFK Express. Once AirTrain was provided, for the parking lot people to have access to the train too, but those coming from the Howard Beach station had to pay the fare (just like before the 1990). Instead of a "slip system" they have instead used a fence to avoid fare beating. A lot neater and easier to impliment than requiring all the parking lot people to need a fare. In this time, the MTA owned a ROW into the airport, which could have provided subway service to a free circulator. The MTA decided to forego this ROW in favor of the PA building Airtrain instead, so the subway train has no access to the free circulator part of AirTrain like the paid branches of Jamaica and Howard Beach do once a fee is charged. Nope. People can get a bus from NYCT to the Lefferts Blvd stop and board airtrain for free. The Lefferts stop is just a ways away from the HB stop of AirTrain. There is no reason the subway passengers should be charged to ride from HB to Lefferts. Right, but you asked how people can ride "for free" from Howard beach. I told you how (I am surprised you didn't know about the free transfer to the Q10 at Lefferts). Since most people are not walking to Howard Beach, but instead are subway riders that have access to both Lefferts and Far Rockaway/Howard Beach A trains, the ones that want the seamless premium service AirTrain provides take Howard Beach A trains, the few that find that too much or want a free transfer can use a similar A train to Lefferts where access to the airport and the free circulator will be provided. |
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