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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Mar 2 21:39:07 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 2 21:26:39 2008. Who are these people? The people who dislike the $5 ped toll and/or didn't know there was one. Go to HB and you'll see them. Uh no. Airtrain provides a very convenient service, and they are NOT getting ripped off at all paying $5 for it's convenience. It blows the hell out of the bus it replaced. Yes, they are getting ripped off big time. They are paying $5, according to you, to ride from HB to Lefferts, because the PA had to go through the time and expense of extending the line from Lefferts to HB. $5 is a huge rip off for about 30 seconds of riding time. As I said, they could charge for the parking lot people too, but that would cause an even worse semantics problem between that lot and the other lots than we have now with Howard Beach. And that is all it is at HB, a semantics problem. who cares. No, they couldn't, since that's even more in the wrong direction and they would get laughed out of the airport business. That was never and is never an option. Cheating mass transit riders out of $5 is something less people will complain about. The service it provides from Howard beach is a great asset, and blows away what was there before. That doesn't make the pedestrian toll right. That whole branch may not have been built had it not been because of the revenue recieved from it to help operate it, I DISAGREE!!!!!! The revenue from HB is minimal!!!!! Go out there and see how many people get on throgh the HB fare gates vs how many get on for free at HB vs how many get on for free at Lefferts. The amount being cheated out of the $5 is much less than the amount riding for free, from what I have observed. I would welcome official figures. As such, the branch was NOT built because of the revenue from the HB station. It was built because the long term lot is a long way from the terminals and there needed to be a better way to get the people to the terminals! and it's VERY conveneint and a great asset for those coming from Howard Beach "great asset" does not necessarily equal "requires a fee" the parking lot could have been just as easily served with buses to Federal circle, but since the connection to Howard Beach (a fee based leg) was going to be there anyway, it made sense to have a parking lot station on it. No, servicing the parking lot was and is the primary goal of the branch, not serving the (A). Because many people can see what a ripoff it is so they don't use it. So NO, the main reason for that branch is not the parking lot, the same could have been done with buses to Federal circle, although less conveneinetly. No, the main reason for the branch is the long term lot. And since a train to that lot was a good addition, it would have been silly not to connect to HB too, but if it didn't go all the way to Howard Beach, where they could collect a fare, They shouldn't collect a fare there. But they are anyhow. but if it didn't go all the way to Howard Beach, where they could collect a fare, it may not have been worth it to build the whole branch. Nope, it was worth it for the lot. The people and money coming from HB are not significant IMO. So either way, however it came down, the extention to Howard beach was probably built as they knew it would get a fare. Even thogh the fare is not right. |
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