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Re: Diagrams Re: Air Train question

Posted by trainsarefun on Wed Feb 27 22:07:53 2008, in response to Re: Diagrams Re: Air Train question, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 27 21:46:07 2008.

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We have posted numerous arguments to back that up.



Refresh our memories then.

I recall only two claims.

(1) The contested and subjective value judgment on your part and by Terrapin Station - as against that of Airtrain customers who actually fork over the access fee - that it's 'bad transportation policy'. So what? The intersubjective poll of people in general causes this claim to work only for those who agree with the value judgment in question. If one doesn't think it's 'bad transportation policy', she isn't going to be persuaded by just repetition that it's 'bad transportation policy'.

(2) The claim that the Airtrain is a free on-property circulator. The trouble with this is that NYCT riders come from off-property, just like at Jamaica, in fact. Your debating partner here went for the (baited) claim that any distance Airtrain went off-property justifies an access fee. He relied on the distinction, to his mind anyway, that the Airtrain vehicle doesn't go off PA property. But so what? The Airtrain system necessarily does lead one off property. Ergo, for people headed to/from A trains at Howard Beach, they are coming from off-property.

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