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Re: Diagrams Re: Air Train question

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 17 22:37:48 2008, in response to Re: Diagrams Re: Air Train question, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 17 20:20:43 2008.

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No I'm not. I'm talking about existing conditions, to refute Chris's [ridiculous] claim that the alternative to the $5 fare at HB would have been to not build the HB branch at all.

And with all due respect, I find the "charged to enter the airport" notion "ridiculous". And I didn't bring that up, Charles did, and I happen to find that to be a very viable reason (or at least one of them) for the charge at HB, as well as the building of that entire leg.

I have no idea. Why does that matter? And if it did increase, super! That's GOOD TRANSPORTATION POLICY!.

Because it would no doubt cannibalize the E's collection at Jamaica. Along the 8th Ave line there would no longer be a "choice" of which subway train to take. They would mostly all take the A because it was "free". That would eat away at the money collected at Jamaica via the E, as well as them losing the money they would have collected at HB.

Gets people out of cars and buses and onto the rails

The $5 collected at HB is not going to change a significant amount of people from opting against using their car, and instead use AirTrain. People are either going to use their car or they are not. If I was going to use public transportation to go to the airport, the $5 or lack there of would not be stopping me. The parking fees are way more than that anyway if I was planning to leave my car at the airport.

And if it just shifted people away from the Jamaica branch, which would seem unlikely, at least in significant numbers, that would just prove that Chris and others are wrong when they says that no one dislikes the $5 toll to access the airport property at HB.


If I am standing at the 42nd St station and I had the choice of a free train at HB taking the A or a $5 train at Jamaica taking the E, of COURSE I would "like" the A better. That proves absolutely nothing. I would love to ride the A train free entering the subway to begin with too, but doesn't mean that makes any sense to make the subway free. Of COURSE people would like "free" better. 100% of people would say that. That doesn't mean charging for a service is "wrong". Let the whole subway be free then because people would like that better. That makes no sense either.

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