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Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island

Posted by (X) 2nd Avenue Local on Mon Jan 28 17:31:17 2008, in response to Re: Elected Officials Call for Extension of Q Line to Supplement Roosevelt Island, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jan 25 10:02:57 2008.

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The goal is to have relatively uncrowded trains to stop at Roosevelt Island during the rush hour. If trains ran all the way to 179th, they'd just want to start them there, which wouldn't solve the problem since by the time they reach R.I., they'd be crowded like the F trains.

I understand your point, but there would be nowhere to turn the (Q) until at least Continental--which itself is not a good idea given teh way trains are turned there, and skipping Roosevelt Avenue is not an option given how busy that station is. So if this idea was done, it would more than likely originate/terminate at 179th Street, which can handle more than one line. The real issue is not whether or not the (F) can handle the increasing loads at Roosevelt Island, because it can, it just that it needs to do so at the most important times of the day--which is during peak hours, and that line is packed with passsengers from Forest Hills, Jackson Heights and transferees from the (7), and Q47, Q19B, Q33 and other buses that stop at Roosevelt Avenue, Jamaica, eastern Queens and western Nasssau County by the time trains reached Roosevelt Island. Trains headed southbound during the AM peak hours are especially bad for Roosevelt Island riders for on the (F), because they often have to wait for one to three trains on average to pass before there is room to get on, and the impatient ones would just push onto the train anyway.

So it would be beneficial that the (Q) be extended to Jamaica as well. logic behind having increased capacity on the Queens Blvd express, is that the number of express commuters that use the (E) and (F) would be split three ways with the addition of the (Q). Riders wanting the express would now have three options instead of two, and Hillside Avenue riders--presuming the (Q) made all local stops like the (F) to/from Continental, would have two options, which in effect would cause the ridership on the (E) and (F) to drop, eliminating the crush-loads on those lines, now that the (Q) would be picking up some of those riders. And with two of those expresses serving 63rd Street, (F)and (Q), the issue regarding crush-loaded trains arriving and departing Roosevelt Island would be resolved

But due to the timers and signal issues, and ultimately safety measures to maintain a safe distance between trains, it is nearly impossible to add an addtional route to the express, which is why MTA won't give this letter that the elected official signed that Rooseevelt Island 360 is referring to, any consideration.

It's unfortunate given the operational and logistical limitations that this route extension can't be implemented, as Queens blvd line needs all the extra Manhattan service it can get.

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