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Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters

Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 10 18:58:47 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 10 18:28:32 2008.

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It's not the subway where you can just pull out. These are SCHEDULED trains on the timetable. Tell someone that is relying on those timetables that their train wasn't held.

The timetables have changed before. Every few months, changes are made, including to connecting trains. I'm not suggesting that we suddenly foist an unannounced schedule change on commuters, so I don't know why you're suggesting that I upset someone's expectations about connecting trains, which even nowadays are sometimes not met.

If the LIRR eliminated the practice of holding for peak hour connections in the next timetable and eliminated that dwell time so that Jamaica was just another stop, more trains could make that routine stop instead of bypassing as is presently the case, with resultant overloading of some trains between NYP and Jamaica and relatively sparse loading of non-stop trains.

Also, many of those brooklyn trains use different stops. Some stop at Nostrand, some stop at East New York, some stop at both East NY and Nostrand, some stop at neither.
And that goes for the Penn Station line too. Some stop at Woodside, some stop at FOrest Hills, some stop at Kew Gardens. Some stop at only Woodside, some stop at all three. Some stop at only two of the three. Every train is different and scheduled to connect according to timetable.


And that has what to do with the particular elimination of a hold for connections that I suggested?

The train out of Far Rockaway - the one mentioned in the original post - arrives at Jamaica at 9:25am. It can be scheduled to depart a minute thereafter, cutting the running down time by at least 4 minutes.

So what about the people on that Far Rockaway train who wanted other destinations? Well, none of them wanted HPA, since HPA service has ended already. They could still catch their present express train to NYP at 9:30. Or if they missed that, they can take the following train to New York, another NYP express, at 9:33. For Woodside, they already wait until 9:36 now (although that train could be under way at 9:34), and for Forest Hills and Kew Gardens they already presently wait until 9:44.

What about the people on the Babylon train that connected with the Far Rockaway train who want a Brooklyn stop? No matter. At 9:36, the following train to Brooklyn makes all stops to FBA. That train actually gets into Jamaica at 9:33, so it could be set to depart a minute later.

And this is at the shoulder of the AM peak period. When service is far more frequent as during the height of the rush, arranging connections is even more beside the point. At that point, one really is talking about subway-like frequencies of service.

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