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Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 10 13:51:03 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 10 11:34:33 2008.

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IIRC, the Babylon and Long Beach lines should have enough capacity for maybe an additional train to Flatbush Avenue every hour while leaving Penn Station riders alone, not sure about the Ronkonkoma. The majority of those trains are filled with people from those branches that want to go to Manhattan, not "East New York". Those trains are all geared to the east of Jamaica people where the majority of the riders are. They are not geared to the few people that use East New York, Nostrand, etc. And the chances are quite slim that the one train they would route to Brooklyn out of all the ones that go to Penn may just have a couple people traveling to Babylon from Nostrand Ave. it's geared to the majority of users. The rare few traveling directly have a simple transfer at jamaica across the platform.

I am just saying that I think that if any branch should go to Flatbush Avenue on the weekends, it should be one that a lot of Flatbush Avenue riders want to go to

No, the railroad sets it up for the MAJORITY of people that USE THE TRAINS, which is east of jamaica. And the vast majority of those people want Penn Station.

A lot of the ridership from there on the weekends comes from people visiting people on the island

Yes, but the majority of the people that use those trains are the people on the eastern part of the train, and they are all going to penn Station, not Flatbush.

With my plan, Far Rockaway riders get the one seat Penn Station ride they wanted forever, and Flatbush riders get direct service to destinations they also want to go to in addition to extra service on the branches the new Flatbush Avenue services will serve.


And the lines that have the most usage (Ronkonkoma, Babylon, and Huntington), want Penn Station. It's geared now to have the least amount of people transfering at Jamaica. Your plan would make more people have to transfer at Jamaica.

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