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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 6 12:21:01 2008, in response to Re: Time for the MTA to destroy the graffiti ''artists'', posted by Christopher Rivera on Sun Jan 6 11:56:16 2008. Wait, but Im saying using graffiti in the tunnels and you shot that down... now you're saying that graffiti doesn't count... pick a side and stick to it.Huh? I never moved. I say the graffiti in the dark tunnels should remain in the dark tunnels. Why showcase it? So YES, I did shoot down the idea of showcasing what is in the tunnels. Who CARES what is in the tunnels. It's dark. The graffiti that mattered was what was on the trains, on the stations, on every inch of whatever part of the subway. Even railings when they ran out of room on the tiles, columns, and surface area had it. A common trait of politicians in a debate use when they are losing is to accuse the other side of "flip flopping". I didn't flip flop, so there is no need to "pick a side and stick to it." Go to kingsbridge road today and look on the southbound platform on the tiles and look at the graffiti, go to 170 street and look there, go look on subway cars and you'll see there's still graffiti, look a week ago when the B trains sat on the express tracks outside of Brighton Beach, they were hit hard. Yes, and as I said, that constitues less than 1-5% of what was here from 1975-1994. Probably even less than 1%, but I will be conservative and say 1-5%. And if you think it's more than that, you have no idea what graffiti was like back then. That's the point. You talking total graffiti now you're saying visual graffiti... give me a break... Huh? Who cares what's in the tunnels. So what if something dimly goes by in a dark tunnel as you go by fast. Total graffiti was a station that you couldn't even tell what color it was painted 20 years earlier because there were so many layers of graffiti on it. Total graffiti was a train that you couldn't tell what it's real color was inside or out because it had 20 years of graffiti on it. Or if they painted it a month ago, it looked the same as the trains that were not painted in 20 years. Total graffiti is every column on the underground station covered with graffiti so not knowing what color the columns were. Total graffiti is an in use tiled station looking like Worth St (and in the beginning even the tiled stations did look like that often). I don't give a rat's ass about a tag in a dark tunnel where trains go by and rat's live. To say they should have removed the graffiti in the tunnels is a complete waste of money, and hardly to be expected. And to showcase it is even more ludicrous. Leave it in the tunnel in the dark where it belongs. The gunn program didn't eliminate the problem it just made it so that trains never ran with graffiti in service, but it never STOPPED the problem. LOL!! You really have no clue. The problem is 5% of what it was. Instead of every kid that can graba spray can running around with it marking up, now you have a few here and there. Believe me, it strangled the problem. And if you think otherwise, you have no idea what was going on in the 70's. Thats why trains still get bombed, why stations still are tagged, Hahahahaha! You see some tags on a station and you think that is "graffiti"? I iam sorry to tell you, but you really have no idea. ANd yes, they handle it better now, as that same station will be cleaned up. And yes it reamained. But just see what that same station would have looked like after two weeks of being repainted in 1980. It would look like it hadn't been painted in 20 years within 2 weeks. THAT was fact. why tunnels are full of it still. Who cares? Why in god's name spend millions removing it from the tunnels? I don't get what these tunnels keep coming up. It would be a complete waste of money. And to showcase it would be even more crazy. I don't get the tunnel thing. I think if someone was asked what you think is wrong in the subway, I don't think anyone would come up with "graffiti in the tunnels". I commend gunn on what he did cause it did make it more of a waste of time for graffiti vandals to do their work cause it cleaned off immediatly, but trains today still get bombed. You really don't have a clue do you? And you think that showcasing decades old graffiti in the tunnels would be more effective that "cleaning the trains off immediately"? That has been VERY effective, and there are probably yonly a fraction of a percent of the amount of graffiti vandals still "tagging" because of that initiative. I'm sure you've seen the graffiti videos out there where they walk into the yards, bomb a train and walk out... No, I was able to see it in person right in front of us. I don't need to see the videos to try and grasp what that awful era was like. I lived it everyday first hand. 60%.... Hilarious. This post only showed more your ignorance of that era. |
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