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Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard

Posted by trainsarefun on Sun Dec 23 13:55:52 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Michael549 on Sun Dec 23 12:58:46 2007.

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From a train operation point of view, the G-train requires several switch movements to get the train into and out of the station - which could impact the other running through lines. One may want to argue that during the midnight hours there is indeed enough time to complete the train movements without much impact on the other trains, and most transit fans would agree. However in choosing between a situation where currently there is no interference, and one where there may be interference - guess which one the TA will choose. Bottom line - no G-train to Queens Plaza - whatever, whenever, that battle is over with.

While you draw a curious - and a tad condescending - distinction between what "transit fans" want and what is feasible, that's a straw man in this case, isn't it? The relay operation in question has been done in the past, as well as during recent Sundays, hasn't it?

I believe that the TA figures it can live with the transit fans and G-train riders who long for the old pattern/route - since they have effectively established the current route as the one that will run 24/7/365. The folks that are not happy will just have to transfer to other trains to get where they are going - its that simple. Improving things for the majority of riders is much easier to do.

You 'explain' this all away as if it's a zero-sum game, but you're missing a premise or two. You're creating the false dichotomy that extending the G route to Queens Plaza at certain times - even overnights - will thwart the will of a majority of riders. But that's not only not established by you; it's probably even false that riders - not "transit fans" - would prefer not to have a viable transfer to the G route.

I find this stance of yours altogether puzzling when, as I recall, you support the present practice of sending 5 trains to/from the East Side IRT to Brooklyn college and sending 3 trains to/from the West Side IRT to New Lots Av. Because no doubt operations would likely go smoother throughout if as many West Side IRT trains as possible went to Brooklyn College.

The folks that are not happy will just have to transfer to other trains to get where they are going - its that simple.

No; its not. If it were, then the MTA would just announce the change when it's officially done, and people will goose-step as commanded. Perhaps the proposal will eventually be adopted. Perhaps things will just continue as they presently do. Or perhaps they will end up otherwise. At all events, one hopes that public discussion will, if not prevail on the most sound solution - whatever that is - then at least be a factor.

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