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Re: SI residents on MTA Fare Hike

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Nov 10 14:26:52 2007, in response to Re: SI residents on MTA Fare Hike, posted by Michael549 on Sat Nov 10 12:35:09 2007.

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What us Staten Islanders need is a replacement to the ferry. The ferry has become the root of all the problems.

It is because of the ferry that the express bus system was developed because people don't want to deal with the stress of riding the SIR/Bus to the ferry...then waiting for the ferry and sitting on the ferry for 30+ minutes and then having to get off and make another transfer to the subway system.

The ferry is the reason why many people don't want to move to SI or even visit SI.

The ferry was a good idea during it's hey-day but now it has become a burden as the SI population has grown immensely and STILL has great potential to grow even further.




What we need is to be put on the map...and the map I'm talking about is the MTA Subway Map.

If the SIR was to be extended, that would require plenty of work as the line would have to dip into a tunnel before Tompkinsville, so that means Tompkinsville would have to be rebuilt underground along with St. George and then new infrastructure would have to be built in Manhattan.



My proposal is simple. Just extend the already deep (1) train at South Ferry Terminal under the NY Harbor. On the SI-side, a PATH Exchange Place-type deep-level station could be built at St. George underneath Bay Street heading towards Tompkinsville. Then the SIR line could simply be left as-is, a new bus terminal could be built (that's already due), while the ferry terminal could be left for other usage or demolished.

By then, the third or possibly fourth SI bus depot would have been built so they could easily add plenty of extra bus services along the existing routes as there would then be a constant flow of traffic moving to/from SI and Manhattan. I know that this plan is immediately shot down by some here but remember that if you build it, they will come. That's exactly what happened to the other boroughs, so this extension would possibly be very worthwhile in the long run for SI's growth.

Of course the primary issues with this is costs as well as the funneling of all SI passengers to the (1) line and only the (1) line to to/from Manhattan. I would then expect the line to become rather crowded from the south end of the line as well (example: St. George would have 40,000 riders from the North Shore buses daily, 15,000 riders from the SIR mainline daily, 1,500 people walking daily, 300 cars parked, 14,000 from South Shore buses daily, and 18,000 from Mid-Island buses daily..these are rough estimate figures from some report a few years back on the SIR North Shore Line)

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