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Posted by Fytton on Mon Sep 10 05:16:48 2007, in response to Re: Phila Inquirer: Gas prices, global warming renewing interest in high-speed rail, posted by Rail Blue on Sun Sep 9 10:02:33 2007. 'K60200 Greater London Urban Area - - - 8,278,251G90700 West Midlands Urban Area - - - 2,284,093 D90200 Greater Manchester Urban Area - - - 2,240,230 (erroneously published as 2,244,931 (the Helsby error); still the definitions are a bit suspect compared to other Urban Areas -- I believe the true figure to be around 1,530,746) D41300 West Yorkshire Urban Area - - - 1,499,465 . G90708 Birmingham (Urban Area Subdivision) - - - 970,892 B81100 Tyneside - - - 879,996 D84100 Liverpool Urban Area - - - 816,216 F90800 Nottingham Urban Area - - - 666,358 E17000 Sheffield Urban Area - - - 640,720 K24600 Bristol Urban Area - - - 551,066' It all depends how you define the urban areas, doean't it? In a small densely populated country, the definitions get difficult. Already you have Birmingham counted by itself as well as within the overall West Midlands figure. Arguably Manchester plus Liverpool is all one urban area, which gets you to over three million. The Nottingham figure given must include Derby, to get to that number, but given the distances concerned you could equally well include Leicester too and get well past a million. Midland Mainline has already proposed an 'East Midlands Parkway' station in the middle of the Nottingham-Derby-Leicester triangle, which could hypothetically be served by a future HSR system for connections with other services. As your 'Impossible Ideal HSR' map shows, the problem in the UK is not a lack of large enough centres of population, or their distances apart, it is that the layout of them is not conducive to serving them all by one, or even two HSR lines. |
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