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Re: Phila Inquirer: Gas prices, global warming renewing interest in high-speed rail

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Sep 9 18:41:31 2007, in response to Re: Phila Inquirer: Gas prices, global warming renewing interest in high-speed rail, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Sep 9 11:03:45 2007.

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No, people will still fly

I didn't say they wouldn't. They still fly in Europe—lots of el-cheapo fare-o airlines over there too. But not all will fly, like they're essentially being forced to do now in the Land Of The Free.

I can be in Chicago in less than 3 hours

No you can't. Time it from city center to city center, not airport gate to airport gate; and even airport gate to airport gate is a stretch.

Only foamers and those afraid of flying would do an overnight cross-country rail trip when the same distance can be covered by an airplane in less than 5 hours

Transcon by air is not less than five hours and never has been. And I'm talking from gate to gate, too. Transcon by high-speed train means a cheaper ride even with sleepers, and a trip short enough that coach passengers would be able to put up with it.

Let's put HSR in an area where everyone knows it will succeed, and that's in the northeast. If people flock to it and abandon the airlines, other locations can then be considered

Bah; people are already flocking to Acela thanks to the mess that the airlines have become; and of course, Kummant's been holding NJT and other commuter trains so it can make 2' 45" without having to run at 150 mph anywhere on the former PRR plus have an OTP of 90 percent (this is all over the news). You're listening to too much propaganda and lies about HSR; it's already been proven to you in this thread that your preconceptions are false, and that HSR is an endpoint-to-endpoint mode primarily, and a strong one at that. Further, it's not necessary that the airlines be "abandoned" for HSR to work; just that it's available.

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