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Posted by JohnnyMints on Sat Jul 28 15:23:30 2007, in response to Re: Gates Ave Re: Housing Projects Re: Jane Jacobs Re: Cross Manhattan expressway, posted by Edwards! on Sat Jul 28 11:04:42 2007. Okay, I'm feeling daring so I'm gonna take you on!"It all started with the Black Awareness movement...during the 60's..Black People were coming into their own..doing..and LIVING like the AMERICAN DREAM..trying to improve their lives.. Getting JOBS that ordinarily would passed on the the other man..or told they did Not qualify for...buying homes..owning property and so forth. VOTING..ELECTING city officals..THAT became a threat to the "old way of thinking" people in charge.[If these people woke up..they might start taking our jobs,moving into our neighborhoods,even dating our children!].. Whole neighborhoods were then blacklisted..no loans..no grants..houses were ALLOWED TO CRUMBLE..BURN..to the grounds..FIRE response was slow,Police treated people like they were ANIMALS,and they were the ZOO KEEPERS..you couldn't even TALK to a cop. Supermarkets were far a few in between...but none of those things stopped the people from STRIVING to make a better life. It was a war..waged on people of color by the WHITE MAN though economics..and when that didn't work..the WAR shifted to mental and spiritual levels." The history of the deterioration of cities and neighborhoods is very complex and the opinions of how and why it happened depends on who you ask. No question race played a huge role. Now this is all way before my time, but from what I can gather through readings etc is that roughly around the same time as black people from the south were moving into northern cities, there had already been a pattern of established white people moving away and into the new suburbs. This was suburbanization, and as black people moved in, they faced discrimination and harassment by the old timers, and neglect from the city officials. The Black Power movement was born of all these frustrations and hardships and as black people started feeling more empowered and became vocal, white people started feeling threatened. Rioting and looting was an explosion of tension, which had reached a critical point, and it seemed almost contageous in how it occured, and let's face it, there were troublemakers in the midst as well, who took advantage of the civil unrest to go apeshit and burn buildings down and loot stores. Those incidents only triggered even more of the white population to flee. Meanwhile, as you said, there was a disinvestment in inner cities and a lot of investments in the suburbs. Cities were left to die and suburbs were promoted as the wave of the future. "Put them DOWN..KEEP THEM DOWN..and give them something to MEDICATED those feelings..Keep them from getting involved with the daily operations..make it HARD for them to keep their families together.. Place a bunch of rules for them to abide by..and IF the break them,take away their children..look them up..specifically the MALES of them household. Dump a shit load of DRUGS in the nab..which would tear the life blood out of them.Keep the families on the SYSTEM..so they would NOT want to enter the MAINSTREAM...but only give them enough so they could barely live off.Keep the schools at SUB PAR levels so the children would not be as smart as WHITE CHILDREN. That was the plan..and it worked for a while..untill people of faith UNDERSTOOD what was going on..and FOUGHT like their live depended on it[it did]. The drugs that were killing us off...? People became TIRED of that bullshit..when they FINALLY found out it was a GOVERNMENT PLAN to keep us out of the loop or kill us off. SAY NO TO DRUGS WAS the CLARION CALL to the FEDS FROM BLACKS ACROSS THE COUNTRY...[You want to KILL US..then you going to have to find another way..]" That's a highly outrageous conspiracy theory. Do you have conclusive evidence of this? People of ALL backgrounds, races, ethnicities etc are always accusing the government of all sorts of crazy shit, from crack being a secret WMD to destroy the black community to covering up alien abductions to attempting to make people submissive to authority by additives and chemicals in diet soda. The real threats are the Drug Dealers and THEY are the ones who need to be locked up for a long time. Junkies need to enter rehab and make sure it sticks. Jail time for drug users is counterproductive since they are the victims, not the perps. No doubt about it, though, that drugs are destructive to individuals, families and whole communities and it's always a good thing when people wise up and turn their backs to it. "Now since DRUGS have fallen off..[became as outdated as Calvin Clein Jeans]..neighborhoods have become safer..a NEW threat has come into play.. White folks..who would NEVER enter a Black/Latino area[its not safe] started moving into the "Hood".. Why? Besides being PRICED OUT OF MANHATTAN,where the rents were climbing though the roof..these "URBAN PIONEERS" opened up a realestate nightmare..where a group of them would purchase a home..fix it up..sell it at twice or maybe three times the price they bought it for,driving up rents..making it harder for the people that ALREADY LIVE HERE to find a home. New developments popping up all over the place,priced out of the reach of the natives...intentional so,mind you...to section the locations WHERE the poorer people can live..namely the housing projects..or family homes passed down. This NEW movement sucks royal ass..and if it were up to me...it wouldn't happen.Its another form of "lets take everything they have,and keep em down,bunch them up...with just enough to live"..." Through the use of eminant domain and gentrification (which I am generally AGAINST, btw), what you are describing is happening all over the place, and yes, it is unfortunately pricing out longtime residents, some of whom are poor and cannot afford to move elsewhere. Which is why AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEEDS to be a major componant and ALL redevelopment projects (it already is in many of them). Redevelopment in and of itself is generally not a bad thing, IMO. I mean, if there is a city neighborhood with large number of abandoned buildings and empty lots... why the hell not restore the buildings and infill the lots, welcoming a new community made up of all sorts of people from all different backgrounds and income levels! The Bottom Line: You can't please everyone; but we should all do our best to get along with each other. "It shows that you know nothing about the inner city..and you should do a little research BEFORE you pass judgment." No argument there. Education is the best thing. And I am always reminding myself to be as objective as possible, and to NOT pass judgment, most of which is just a reflection of personal views and biases. |
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