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Posted by WillD on Tue Jul 24 21:45:00 2007, in response to Re: Brooklyn Dodgers (on topic), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 24 19:36:24 2007. we are an island in Manhattan, and on Long Island, there is only one way in and out by rail,But that could have changed if the Joint bond plan of 1955 had allocated some of the PANJNY and TBTA's nearly 3 billion dollar windfall toward mass transit as opposed to superflous highways. The road crossings still could have been built, and a few neccesary highways constructed, but we could have had two more tunnels under the Hudson, another pair of LIRR tunnels under the East River, extensive subway improvements, and probably could have built the freight tunnel under NY Harbor. Instead Moses pumped that money into a great number of superflous highways that in some cases followed his previous roads and still did nothing to alleviate traffic. I'm not the one who came up with this idea, it's straight from the MRTC's reports which were issued at the same time Moses was readying the spending plan for that bond package. Of course it does, but once again, you are using TODAY's ideals and knowledge, and learning, and trying to place it in an era that looked at rail (any rail) as old fashioned. No. You're applying Moses and his buddy's thinking to everyone at the time, which clearly is not the case. People like F. Dodd McHugh, Jane Jacobs, Lee Koppelman, and the MRTC were contemporaries of Moses who realized the utility of rail travel, they saw the good that could come from mixed income organic neighborhoods, and they pushed for a balanced modal mix which emphasised both rail and road development. Moses would have none of it and instead pushed for more extensive road construction even after it was apparant the previous roads had done nothing to relieve congestion. A large minority of people saw how things could change for the better to make inroads at fixing NYC's traffic problems, but they were powerless in the face of Moses. People used the LIRR in the bottom of it's ebb in the late 1960s, so clearly they were willing to seek alternatives to the Moses-induced traffic, they just weren't provided with anything other than a railroad choked of all funding for nearly two decades. |
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