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Re: Brooklyn Dodgers (on topic)

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Jul 24 20:13:44 2007, in response to Re: Brooklyn Dodgers (on topic), posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 24 06:05:07 2007.

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I don't know how much Lindsay had to do with getting us air-conditioned subways (probably the single biggest improvement to the system, with florescent lighting, the second biggest in my opinion), but for the longest time the TA was deadset against it claiming it just wasn't feasible according to its engineers. When they finally conceded it was feasible for the IND-BMT, they still maintained for a number of years that it was infeasible for the IRT until they were proven wrong.

Those too young will not remember this, but I do. So all you say is very true. Moses was evil in many ways, but he was also very brilliant as well as being a visionary, and caused a lot of good. No one who was in charge of transit came close to being a visionary and even without Moses being around would not have made vast improvements to the system. They were far more interested in political concerns and maintaining the status quo, afraid to do anything visionary or drastic except getting rid of streetcars and els and not replacing them with anything superior, just a lot of broken promises.

I remember just before one of the last trolleys stopped operating (Church Avenue) , the posters said that starting the following week the line will be "improved" with bus service. Not only wasn't there an "improvement," we didn't even get new buses, just some old, noisy, rickety ones in need of a paint job that were in worse condition than the PCCs they replaced.

And that's not revisionist history.

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