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Re: Brooklyn Dodgers (on topic)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 23 13:09:36 2007, in response to Re: Brooklyn Dodgers (on topic), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 23 12:03:49 2007.

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Robert Caro's assertion about the overpasses being built too low for mass transit of any kind accessing Jones Beach is not only true, but totally in character for the man.

It's still urban legend, and one man's assesment of opinion, that people take for fact. I have not seen one piece of solid evidence that makes that claim a fact, other than speculation.

He made damn sure the Verrazano Bridge could not carry rail service of any kind.

Agreed, but with the height of that bridge, you would need ramps for a train incline all the way in Prospect park to begin that ascent at a doable grade to get to that height from out of the subway....

He blocked putting rail service on the GWB.

I am not as familiar with the building of the GeoW, other than that the towers were built to be encased like the Brooklyn Bridges, but the Depression or the wear (not sure), altered it to remain just the skeleton it is today. Point me to some unbiased writing on the Moses part of the project, and I will read it and perhaps re-evaluate, but I couldn't find any, but of course, didn't look long.

He consistently killed off any chance that the SAS would be built in his lifetime.

Nonsense. Again, where was the funding coming from? The Great Depression and WWII killed the initial plans, and after the war, ideals and focus changed, and not just NY, everywhereNo city was getting funds for projects to expand transit on any large scale. The federal government was giving out plenty of highway funds though, which RObert Moses took fool advantage of.

Robert Moses was a flaming racist, which is probably the only thing about the man which makes him truly "a man of his time".


Perhaps. But that means nothing but a hearsay evaluation or reason for the parkway bridges, which were again, FACT, designed and built in the 1920's and 30's, long before buses were seen to be a way of the future. It would have been impossible to realize the extent of what transit, buses, etc would be like by the 50's, much less in the 20's, WHEN THE FIRST PARKWAYS werew built, and others designed. Robert Moses may have been many things, both good and bad, but a psychic was not one of them.

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