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Re: May 11, 1975. . .End of the Culver shuttle |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed May 16 18:52:34 2007, in response to Re: May 11, 1975. . .End of the Culver shuttle, posted by J trainloco on Wed May 16 00:21:17 2007. Man..what wrong with you?Thats the same "logic" the politicians used to get lines removed.. Case in point,the outer end of the Jamaica El..the 3rd avenue el in the Bronx AND Manhattan...and the Myrtle El in Brooklyn.. In EACH and EVERY one of the circumstances...service was WELL patronized. With the 3RD AVENUE EL...it was well know that the private developers wanted the line gone to attract big business..even to the point where removing a much sturdier elevated a block over was deemed foolish. The city,seeing this as a mistake..but still wanting its tax money from new homes and businesses along the avenues..again promised a NEW SUBWAY under second avenue. We know the results.The city government took the TAX MONEY..gladly..but no new subway was built...at least none under SECOND AVENUE. Strange thing is..the city couldn't afford to OPERATE a new subway under that street..not to mention Build it. The 60's brought about changes..the city was fallin apart and the transit system was suffering from neglect.. Several plans were drawn up to "replace" the OLD with the NEW..such as the remaining 3rd avenue el in the Bronx with a line over and along Park avenue[todays Metro North ROW] via a connection to the WEST FARMS LINE at 149th st,and a NEW SECOND AVENUE SUBWAY from Lower Manhattan to White Plains Road/241 st[taking over the IRT EL]. While these plans were being drawn..the city was trying to bring back Neighborhoods that were declining..by building a new type of housing development.. Model Cities was a low lying complex spread out with small 3 to 4 story stuctures..enclosing parkland..simular to the previous NYCHA...only on a smaller scale. Plan had them located in Brooklyn..Bronx..Upper Manhattan.. On a MASSIVE SCALE..the Brooklyn plans had the entire Myrtle avenue corridor from Broadway to Jay st redeveloped into a "Model Cites neighborhood"..joining the already existing NYC HOUSING units. Several were built in the Downtown/Clinton Hill area.. Plans also called for the UPGRADING of the Myrtle Avenue elevated to handle ALL STEEL subway cars..along with a new car order called the R39.. Sad to say..none of this had a good ending as we know the rest of the story... In any case..driving riders away from a line in order to "PROVE" low ridership is a vile and underhanded thing to do...but the people in charge of the system during that time didn't really give a damn about how the system was handled..and figured LESS WAS MORE...DON'T LIKE IT?..TAKE THE BUS..OR buy a car like the NORMAL PEOPLE DO. The Lasting effects...or shall we say..the bad image and taste the MTA left us with is still lingering about like a bad cold that wont go away. Times have change,TODAY...and I can say this.. They are now trying to PRESERVE rather than destroy.. Why? I gather that NOW..people are NOT willing to allow Big Government to roll over them without a fight...and due to this..we still have the Jamaica Avenue El operating in Queens..unlike what the MTA WANTED TO DO..which was cut the line back to Cresent/Fulton st...with NO rail service to Jamaica. We can learn from the past. |
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