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Re: No, The outer boros get service to the CBD (was: Re: Whining......)

Posted by MATHA531 on Fri Apr 20 16:28:39 2007, in response to Re: No, The outer boros get service to the CBD (was: Re: Whining......), posted by J trainloco on Fri Apr 20 15:42:23 2007.

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...but even accepting the argument how important it is to better service people coming from the outer boroughs in the CBD, what about the people in the many areas of Queens (and I will list Queens first) and in Brooklyn (which I happen to know better; not that I think Brooklyn deserves priority over Queens although there are large areas of Brooklyn without any subway service)....aren't these people entitled to the same opportunity to enter the CBD as everybody else (not to leave out Staten Island which has no access)..

The point remains...yes some improvements were made since the last subway was built and completed in 1940 (what is that 67 years ago)...1940 indeed was the last time a major line was built....a connection from Eurlid to the existing Fulton Street el to Lefferts and the Rockaways...nice job but not really a new line (although one can agree that Rockaway people are better off with the subway and its much lower fares than the LIRR)....again my example remains the Nostrand Avenue and Utica Avenue subways...long promised and bonds floated for but never built.

I really do believe that the attitude today is that bus to the subway is sufficient, cheaper and now that double fares have been somewhat eliminated, what's the big deal.

And since I no longer live in Brooklyn, quite frankly it's no skin off my teeth one way or another...I'm just stating it from a historic viewpoint and also as a kid having to pay a double fare everytime I ventured into Manhattan to go to a Knick or Ranger game and coming home at night and having to rely on the B6 bus to get from the Brighton station at Avenue J to my parent's house in Canarsie and how many night then I had to wait 20 minutes for a bus as there was absolutely no attempt made to coordinate the bus and the subway...how often did I see the train coming into the Avenue J station just as the bus took off..it bugged me then and I felt it was unfair..and my point was nobody cared then and quite frankly, nobody cares now because after all it's Queens and Brooklyn.

Somewhere in this thread which started in October, I made the point but you can answer this for me. Do you for one second think that if an electrical blackout which hit Queens and deprived people of electricity for a week ever happened in the CBD, it would have taken a week to fix????

The only point being made and being stated as a subject for discussion, not as a subject to put anybody else down or be put down myself, is city govenment is and has always been Manhattancentric...big money talks I suppose and the transportation system indeed is one example of it.

That's the point being made and I welcome the opportunity to engage in a meaningful discussion, not be put down for "whining".

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