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Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Feb 13 11:09:01 2007, in response to Re: A Transit Robert Moses Guy, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 13 10:33:39 2007.

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I'll repeat what I said before. Yes, Moses does deserve a lot of credit for everything he accomplished. If not for him, many of the projects he got done in a very short period of time either would never have gotten done at all or years later in a scaled down version, with New Yorkers suffering the consequences.

I believe Caro agrees with this and gives Moses the proper credit he deserves. With that said, I don't believe, however, you are correct is assuming that the problem was that there wasn't a "Robert Moses" for transit. If you read the Power Broker, you know about the power that Moses wielded and how he handled that power using intimidation. If such an RM guy would have existed, it is doubtful that he would have been able to accomplish anything as long as Moses was in power. The funding pot in Washington was limited. Moses and the fictitional RM would have been competing for the same funds. Moses would have found a way to assure that he gets the funds he needs for roads and your RM guy gets bubkis (peanuts, if thats a good translation) for transit. To succeed he would have had to have the same personality as Moses which meant that the subway projects he got built would not have been what was necessarily best for New York which is why I included the "York Avenue subway with one stop at 86th Street" in my earlier example and not a full blown Second Avenue Subway.

"it's not like if there wasn't a Moses taking money for the roads that all this money would have come to NY for transit."

That part of what you say is true.

If Moses didn't shoot himself in the foot by making a few stupid maneuvers in the early sixties, he would have been in power until the day he died. He got a fitting punishment in the end. His last days were miserable and he was in pure hell. He had all this knowledge that he wanted to share but no one wanted to listen to him.

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