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Re: West London Line & West Coast Main Line (Was: Cockfosters)

Posted by David Fairthorne on Tue Jan 16 14:16:35 2007, in response to Re: West London Line & West Coast Main Line (Was: Cockfosters), posted by Rail Blue on Mon Jan 15 03:51:37 2007.

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I have noticed that in the off-peak period (midday) there are no trains from Victoria to the following stations:
Coulsdon South, Merstham, Earlswood, Salfords (served from London Bridge)
Burgess Hill, Hassocks, Preston Park (served from Thameslink via London Bridge)

Off-peak most passengers want Victoria rather than London Bridge, and that's one thing that I would like to remedy.

The present off-peak service is as follows:
4 tph Victoria to Gatwick only
2 tph Victoria to Brighton fast
1 tph Victoria to Southampton & Eastbourne (splits at Haywards Heath)
1 tph Victoria to Hastings & Littlehampton (splits at Haywards Heath)
1 tph Victoria to Portsmouth & Bognor via Redhill and Horsham (splits at Barnham)
1 tph Victoria to Chichester via Redhill and Horsham
2 tph Thameslink via London Bridge to Brighton fast
2 tph Thameslink via London Bridge to Brighton slow
1 tph London Bridge to Tunbridge Wells via Redhill
1 tph London Bridge to Horsham via Redhill
1 tph Watford to Brighton slow

TOTAL 17 tph

After killing the Gatwick Express, this is what I suggest off-peak:
2 tph Victoria to Brighton fast
2 tph Victoria to Brighton slow
1 tph Victoria to Eastbourne fast
1 tph Victoria to Eastbourne slow
1 tph Victoria to Littlehampton via Hove fast
1 tph Victoria to Littlehampton via Hove slow
1 tph Victoria to Portsmouth via Redhill and Horsham
1 tph Victoria to Bognor via Redhill and Horsham
2 tph Victoria to Horsham via Redhill
2 tph Thameslink via London Bridge to Brighton fast
2 tph Thameslink via London Bridge to Brighton slow

TOTAL 16 tph

That would eliminate all splitting, and provide at least 1 tph from Victoria to all stations.

All trains would call at East Croydon and Gatwick Airport.

I would like to send the Thameslinks via Redhill, to maintain a service from London Bridge to Redhill.

Then there would be 8 tph via Redhill and 8 tph via the Quarry line.

As for the peak hours, the Brighton line is near capacity, and I would want to know the loadings of individual trains before deciding how better to use the Gatwick Express slots. I would not aim for a regular clock-face service pattern during the peak period.


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