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Re: Thameslink 2020 inches closer

Posted by Fytton on Mon Dec 18 09:51:50 2006, in response to Re: Thameslink 2020 inches closer, posted by David Fairthorne on Sat Dec 16 15:08:25 2006.

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Assuming this is the weekday midday off-peak service, it represents a considerable increase in frequencies on some lines. As a Bedford resident, I shouldn't complain at doubling the frequency to 8 tph, but it does seem excessive. There will be 6 tph, presumably all-stations, southwards from St Albans (versus 4 now), in addition to the 8 tph, presumably semi-fast, from Bedford. The Peterborough offpeak service is doubled from 2 to 4 tph, but Cambridge, oddly, is reduced from 6 to 4 tph - there are currently 2 tph all-stations, 2 tph semi-fast, and two tph nonstop Kings Cross-Cambridge of which 1 tph goes on to Kings Lynn. Maybe the nonstops will still terminate at Kings Cross? The Letchworth service is presumably the one via Watton-at-Stone, doubled in frequency from 1 to 2 tph.

South of the Thames, Thameslink trains to Brighton are unchanged at 4 tph, and presumably the 1 tph each to Eastbourne and Littlehampton replace existing workings from Victoria. The Horsham via Gatwick and East Grinstead services presumably replace existing ones from Victoria too. This begs the question of whether an enhanced service via London Bridge will mean a reduced service from Victoria - which might not be popular with people down the Brighton line.

The St Albans-Sevenoaks 2 tph is the Catford Loop, replacing the service that currently ends at Blackfriars, at an unchanged frequency, and is thus uncontroversial. The Ashford service presumably replaces the existing Charing Cross-Ashford stopping service - again, would passengers be happy at being denied Charing Cross, the best-sited of all the London termini?

And the Dartford ones would only be part of the service to Dartford - a set of routes that cry out for a proper Msubway-style service of frequent trains all going the same way, so that no-one need look at a timetable, and not a service that has several different London destinations all at 2 tph each.

I don't know about the Guildford service - that's James Rail Blue's part of London, so I'll leave him to comment.

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