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Posted by Fytton on Fri Sep 8 08:06:19 2006, in response to Re: London Overground, posted by David Fairthorne on Wed Sep 6 23:23:26 2006. "Yes, the London Bridge local services via New Cross Gate are quite popular, and they ought not to be reduced to make way for the East London Line extension."The 2010 map has national rail ('barbed wire') logos against all the stations New Cross Gate to Norwood Junction inclusive, which seems to imply that they will get *both* London Bridge and East London Line trains. Together with the fact that the ELL will eventually have four southern termini (West Croydon, Crystal Palace, New Cross and Clapham Junction), this suggests that the frequency to each of these branches will be modest, otherwise Surrey Quays to Dalston Junction will be grossly over-served. If we assume 3 tph to each of the four, that give 6 tph ELL trains to Brockley, Honor Oak Park, Forest Hill and Sydenham, and 12 tph Surrey Quays-Dalston Junction. Even at that level, I doubt if all of them could continue from Dalston Junction on to the NLL without completely screwing the rest of the NLL service (especially for the unfortunate folk of Hackney, whose main route to the tube at Highbury & Islington this is). Some trains would have to turn and go back south at Dalston Junction, and others go through on to the NLL. New Cross (South Eastern) would get a cut in its ELL service to 3 tph, and the South London Line would get an increase to 3 tph. If 6 tph ELL trains reached Sydenham, you could have a 3 tph service from one or other of the Croydons to London Bridge as well, giving an unevenly spaced 6 tph service at Norwood Junction, Anerley and Penge West and an unevenly spaced 9 tph at stations Sydenham to New Cross Gate inclusive. I assume that Tattenham Corner and Caterham trains would revert to being fast East Croydon-London Bridge, sharing the fast tracks with the Thameslink (sorry, FCC) Brighton trains. If they called at New Cross Gate they could pick up there all the disgruntled stopping-train passengers who really didn't want to be taken to Whitechapel and Dalston (8-) ! |
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