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Re: Bring the JFK Express back...can it be done?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Apr 24 18:53:25 2006, in response to Re: Bring the JFK Express back...can it be done?, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Apr 24 18:27:12 2006.

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All airpports involve transfers, even if it's from your car to the curb and into the terminal.

It is a shame you can't see the difference between getting out of a cab and immediately handing your bags over to the curbside check-in and changing from multiple subway lines or the LIRR to AirTrain and then having to exit AirTrain and walk a good distance to the curbside check in.

Even O'Hare, while "cemntralized" involves long hikes to get to many gates. However, I'm certainly not going to say that CTA did wrong by their O'Hare line. I see it as a positive and welcome development, as is the Midway line. But not transferring to a circulator to get to the farther gates is a lot more work than using a circulator.

Huh? At O'Hare, the subway line goes right to main terminal building. A circulator is irrelevant. There instead should be moving sidewalks since you stay within one building to reach all the gates. If you need to go to one of the smaller side terminals or the rental car lots, then you get on the circulator, which is free.

So in NYC, extending the circulator to meet both multiple subways and commuter rail was the single smartest thing the PA could do.

False, the single smartest thing the PA could have done was allowed the subway to come right to the terminals and loop around, along with building indoor, flat corridors, with moving sidewalks if need be, from the stations to the departure levels of the terminals.

The transfer is going to happen anyway, no matter what, and the PA's transfers are very good.

The transfer of luggage onto the curb happens every time, no matter how you get to the airport. The PA introduced extra transfers by making you transfer from the subway and LIRR to AirTrain, and then from AirTrain to street level. Then you make the final transfer of lifting your bags up on to the curb, just like taxi riders. Your statement that "the transfer is going to happen anyway" makes no sense.

Lets add up some transfers:

To JFK via taxi:
-transfer from taxi directly to curb
TOTAL = 1

To JFK via subway and old shuttle bus
-transfer from subway to low floor shuttle bus
-transfer from low floor shuttle bus directly to curb
TOTAL = 2 or more (depending on number of subway lines taken)

To JFK via subway and AirTrain
-transfer from subway to AirTrain
-transfer from AirTrain to street level
-transfer from station street level to curb (walk from station street level over to curb, outdoors and crossing traffic)
TOTAL = 3 or more (depending on number of subway lines taken)

To JFK via subway and LIRR and AirTrain
-transfer from subway to LIRR
-transfer from LIRR to AirTrain
-transfer from AirTrain to street level
-transfer from station street level to curb (walk from station street level over to curb, outdoors and crossing traffic)
TOTAL = 4 or more (depending on number of subway lines taken)


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