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Re: Bring the JFK Express back...can it be done?

Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Apr 22 13:16:38 2006, in response to Re: Bring the JFK Express back...can it be done?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Apr 22 12:42:21 2006.

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"Instead we get these piecemeal services (TTTP, AirTrain)"

TTTP (the JFK Express) was a piecemeal service and it's gone now; AirTrain, being an extension of an airport circulator, is not. It's a pretty seamless connection to rail, no different than what you find in Atlanta.

When you compare it to SEPTA's R1 service, AirTrain is actually much better because you can access it from so many more points, rather than just the downtown business district.

"which still require you to drag your luggage between modes (train, bus, or subway). "

That's called "spin" on your part, not reality. The reality is that customers already have to use escalators and elevators to move luggage where it needs to go, so AirTrain is no different. AirTrain turned the transit experience into something far better than it ever was before. You may not like it, but passengers have already voted their approval.

Ithink the PA should start using the luggage facility in Jamaica for airline check-in, because that would bring the convenience up toa new level, and I will advocate for that.

"I could see the Fulton/8th Ave. IND absorbing the additional tph with just a few service adjustments (like extending the C to Lefferts during the day--all C's use Lefferts as south term,"

Lefferts branch passengers will not accept that and MTA will correctly not implement something which is detrimental to its ridership.

"and the two A branches become Far Rock or the JFK loop...it could have been done."

No it couldn't and trying to compare the A train entering a JFK Terminal loop to the current arrangement is ridiculous. Let's see, no E or J service airport connection and no LIRR connection to the airport, no express service on the Lefferts branch, but hey the A train runs directly to the terminals.

MTA officials did hear ideas like that and correctly dismissed them as railbuff foaming with no connection to reality and no concept of what customers want. They were also kind enough not to fall off their chairs laughing at such nonsense. I would have had a hard time not laughing too, but I would have taken a deep breath and tried.



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