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Posted by piyer on Sat Nov 15 10:08:41 2025, in response to Middle Village and Maspeth NIMBYs come out to oppose IBX, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 10 15:25:14 2025. WOW! There's at least one NIMBY who objects to the freight traffic too.*ahem* I think the city is woefully behind the curve in expanding rail rapid transit services. There need was seen a century ago with the IND Second System proposals. The city has grown, even in under-served areas, while expansion plans have been torpedoed or shelved. I am not, however, sold on the IBX. I'm concerned about several issues, chief among them is the impact this would have on future freight operations. The bridges can only support so much traffic. The more truck traffic, the less auto traffic. By downgrading the Bay Ridge line's freight capacity, are we trading a rail corridor for a new set of bridges to get truck freight into the city? In one of the other comments here, someone was talking about existing subway stations being the same half-mile walk to new IBX stops. While this might be true, it ignores capacity issues. Can existing stops and lines absorb more passengers and more trains? I attended Brooklyn College in the 2008 to 2010 window. Pulling into the Flatbush Ave terminal in the morning, trains were often delayed due to traffic. You'd see outbound trains packed like sardines as they left the terminal. That's a station that would be a half-mile walk from an IBX stop. Would IBX reduce the crowding on the 2&5? Maybe not, but could the 2&5 absorb a few thousand more riders that might otherwise have used IBX? Definitely not. It's the same elsewhere. New lines aren't just for convenience but to address capacity issues elsewhere. Like Second Avenue is supposed to help the 4/5/6 in Manhattan. I do have empathy for the NIMBY crowd. I grew up in Brighton Beach in the 1970s & 80s. The blocks of little bungalows and the Brighton Beach Baths - and the Oceana movie theatre. *sigh* The neighborhood is barely recognizable today. I'd have loved to have kept my "hometown" as it was. But the one constant in life is change. You can choose to be a architect of that change to a victim of it. NIMBY folks are the latter. |