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Re: Middle Village and Maspeth NIMBYs come out to oppose IBX

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Nov 12 07:03:33 2025, in response to Re: Middle Village and Maspeth NIMBYs come out to oppose IBX, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Nov 11 11:33:16 2025.

The demand for travel between all the IBX stations constitute 10% of trips that originate at a proposed IBX station. The figure isn't much better for the IBX's role as a connector for existing lines at Roosevelt Ave. The percentage is 13% of all trips originating at the IBX and those existing lines.

I actually didn't realize it already reached the double-digits. Those are high numbers when dealing with a population like NYC's and when we already have most of the proposed line "carved" out. If that's only latent demand, I wonder what the induced demand may be.

So long as areas in Northeastern Queens and similar places will fight against a subway line extension, and so long as a system should be expanding anyway, IBX seems like the thing to do.

Even if we did outer extensions instead and drawing lots of brand new riders, you would need the core of the system to be ready to receive them. Without circumferential projects, it would basically be hub-and-spoke. People come from the outside and all have to change in Manhattan and the system would need to accommodate that.

Regarding the SAS, there's an element too there of thinking ahead. The Lexington Ave line was highly congested. You needed SAS just to help out with that, regardless of whether new ridership was found. And we're a bit better set up for the future now with SAS, as I think we would be with IBX.

I appreciate your research and data. I'm just noting other things.

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